VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

-POSTING RULES
-Advertise in here!
- Today's Posts | Insert Pics

Keep VAF Going
w/a Donation






VAF on Twitter:
@VansAirForceNet


Go Back   VAF Forums > The Never Ending Debate Section > Primers
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

View Poll Results: Which self etching rattle can primer do you prefer?
Napa 7220 23 32.86%
Mar-Hyde 5111 3 4.29%
SEM 13 18.57%
Tempo 2 2.86%
Sherwin Williams 988 9 12.86%
Other (Not listed, "Epoxy is all I use", etc.) 20 28.57%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-05-2011, 11:31 PM
jpurban jpurban is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 33
Default Which self-etch rattle can primer do you prefer?

For those out there that have used self etching primers in rattle cans, I'd like for you to vote your experience... I'm getting ready to start an empennage kit and thought I'd see what the majority of users are using.

Update... I'm seeing a lot of "Other" votes and mentions of Duplicolor. I'll see if I can add that to the poll.

Last edited by jpurban : 03-06-2011 at 10:38 PM. Reason: Add Duplicolor option.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-06-2011, 12:10 AM
lorne green lorne green is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Oliver, B.C. Canada (Okanagan valley)
Posts: 786
Question

I voted Napa's primer only because it is what is available to me locally, not because it's best. Best as in durability is likely going to be a two part epoxy.
Regards.
__________________
Lorne
RV 7a tip-up
Pre-cover MD-RA Inspected.
Canopy completed. Bonded with Sika-Flex.
Up on her mains, Firewall Fwd and wiring on going.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-06-2011, 12:14 AM
Flyguytki's Avatar
Flyguytki Flyguytki is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fairbanks AK
Posts: 758
Default

I have used both NAPA and SEM, I liked SEM much better, it goes on much smoother and dries very quickly. Also very durable, just little more expensive than NAPA

-david
__________________
RV-7 N87DX Built, Flown, and Sold!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-06-2011, 12:17 AM
FlyinOBrien2's Avatar
FlyinOBrien2 FlyinOBrien2 is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Murrieta, Ca.
Posts: 22
Default Primer

For our empennage we started out using Dupli-Color self-etching primer. The stuff is great but expensive in large quantities (and expensive to ship since it's HAZMAT). It dries very quickly and you're ready to rivet just a short time after you've sprayed it. We found the best deal for it at NAPA Auto Parts.
__________________
RV-7 Build in progress.

Empennage done. Wings started!

http://www.therv-7project.blogspot.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-06-2011, 04:10 AM
plehrke's Avatar
plehrke plehrke is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Defiance, MO
Posts: 2,123
Default

I used Har-Hyde as that was popular with the guys on the RV-list and local builders way back in the late 90s when I started my plane. I used it on interior peices as I was building. Everything got a coat of epoxy primer and epoxy top coat (PPG Concept) after installed. No signs of wearing, pealing, or cracking after 5 years and 450+ hours of flying.
Exterior all done with PPG self etching primer, epoxy primer, and epoxy top coat. Paint is bullet proof.
__________________
Philip
RV-6A - flying 1000+ hours
Donated to VAF yearly since 2007. Why? Because it is worth every penny and more.

There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. óMARK TWAIN
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-06-2011, 06:45 AM
Ironflight's Avatar
Ironflight Ironflight is offline
VAF Moderator / Line Boy
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
Posts: 13,471
Default

Current favorite is Duplicolor Self-Etching from Advanced Auto - $5/can, does a great job, goes on easy.
__________________
Paul F. Dye
Editor at Large - KITPLANES Magazine
RV-8 - N188PD - "Valkyrie"
RV-6 (By Marriage) - N164MS - "Mikey"
RV-3B - N13PL - "Tsamsiyu"
A&P, EAA Tech Counselor/Flight Advisor
Dayton Valley Airpark (A34)
http://Ironflight.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-06-2011, 06:55 AM
spinner328 spinner328 is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pembroke Ma
Posts: 4
Default

I used the Napa rattle can very happy with it. The paint I sprayed on 8 years ago looks the same as the day it went on. the cockpit and baggage area I top coated with PPG concept paint, the two stuck together very well. As for any primer and paint, prep is everything. but there is no question a two part primer is much more durable and can Handel the fuels and oils.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-06-2011, 08:04 AM
Brantel's Avatar
Brantel Brantel is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
Posts: 7,653
Default

Mar-Hyde from a can is inferior to Duplicolor Self Etch you can get at any auto parts place or places like Wal-Mart. I discovered the Duplicolor about 1/2 way thru my build and it is awesome stuff.

For large parts and skins, I used the waterborne primer from Stewart Systems. This stuff is awesome once you learn how to spray it. Best part about using it is the cleanup!
__________________
Brantel (Brian Chesteen),
RV-12IS Empennage/Tail Cone In Progress , Wings and Fuselage Kits Ordered!
Serial #121606, N912BC (reserved)
Check out my RV-12IS builder's BLOG
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Check out my RV-10 builder's BLOG (Good stuff for those starting an RV-10)
RV-10, #41942, N?????, Project Sold
RV-7/TU, #72823, N159SB Airplane Sold
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-06-2011, 08:15 AM
N941WR's Avatar
N941WR N941WR is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,882
Default

My vote was for SEM.

Whichever you use, get one of these handles. It makes applying it much easier.

The other tricks I learned to put it on smoothly was to heat the paint by placing the can in front of a small space heater and wipe the nozzle every few passes.
__________________
Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-06-2011, 08:21 AM
L.Adamson's Avatar
L.Adamson L.Adamson is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
Posts: 4,021
Default

I always preferred the Mar Hyde over can B....

L.Adamson --- RV6A
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:10 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.