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02-24-2011, 06:50 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florence, AL
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Brake lines.. Flexible vs. Rigid aluminum..
Made the swap to Royco 782 yesterday and while working on the swap, we started discussing the aluminum brake lines.. I've done a little searching here on the board but have not turned up what I'm looking for..
The builder of our 6 "sealed" the gear leg fairings, I haven't read/hear of this is SOP, but if we wanted to completely replace the brake lines we'd also be looking at new leg fairings which we don't really wish to do..
We do have a decent amount of line out of the bottom of the fairing.. Would there be an "easy" way to go with a flexible hose from the bottom of the fairing to the brake assembly?
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Jeff
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02-24-2011, 07:38 AM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
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Originally Posted by Tram
Made the swap to Royco 782 yesterday and while working on the swap, we started discussing the aluminum brake lines.. I've done a little searching here on the board but have not turned up what I'm looking for..
The builder of our 6 "sealed" the gear leg fairings, I haven't read/hear of this is SOP, but if we wanted to completely replace the brake lines we'd also be looking at new leg fairings which we don't really wish to do..
We do have a decent amount of line out of the bottom of the fairing.. Would there be an "easy" way to go with a flexible hose from the bottom of the fairing to the brake assembly?
Thanks
Jeff
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Jeff,
One of the concerns with "sealed" gear legs is corrosion caused by moisture entrapment that goes unseen. Sealing the legs was done occassionally years ago but was never considered standard procedure.
The flexible lines are really nice, I changed my rigid lines to flex a couple of years ago. If it was my plane, I would strip the gear legs to make sure there is no corrosion and redo the fairings and lines. The job isn't as bad as it sounds and you will know the gear is done right. 
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02-24-2011, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,499
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How was it sealed?
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Originally Posted by Tram
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The builder of our 6 "sealed" the gear leg fairings, I haven't read/hear of this is SOP, but if we wanted to completely replace the brake lines we'd also be looking at new leg fairings which we don't really wish to do..
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Jeff
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Jeff,
Do you know HOW the fairings were sealed? I ask, because one of my friends deleted the hinge connecting the rear edges of the gear main fairings on his RV4. He simply sealed this seam with ProSeal. I queried him on how he would deal with this [he is an A&P, IA] if the fairings ever needed to be removed? He stated that a sharp razor blade or dental floss could be used to cut the ProSeal. The dental floss method is similar to how we cut windshields out of cars and trucks. Removing those fairings might not be such a big deal.
Charlie Kuss
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02-24-2011, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florence, AL
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Not sure how they were sealed..
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02-24-2011, 03:51 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ridgeland, SC
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Jeff--
are you using 3/16, or1/4 rigid tube along the gear legs? Short teflon flex hoses are no big deal to make. Decide how long you need the hoses, and flare the tubing, and connect the two with a AN815-3D or AN815-4D union (depending on the size of the tubing). .
Tom
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02-24-2011, 03:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SE Florida
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Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Jeff,
One of the concerns with "sealed" gear legs is corrosion caused by moisture entrapment that goes unseen. Sealing the legs was done occasionally, years ago, but was never considered standard procedure.
The flexible lines are really nice, I changed my rigid lines to flex a couple of years ago. If it was my plane, I would strip the gear legs to make sure there is no corrosion and redo the fairings and lines. The job isn't as bad as it sounds and you will know the gear is done right. 
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Great advice from Sam. Can you contact the fellow who built your RV, to ask him how he secured the fairings?
Charlie
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02-25-2011, 07:20 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Yeh, I can give the builder a call and see what he says..
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02-25-2011, 07:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Jeff,
One of the concerns with "sealed" gear legs is corrosion caused by moisture entrapment that goes unseen. Sealing the legs was done occassionally years ago but was never considered standard procedure.
The flexible lines are really nice, I changed my rigid lines to flex a couple of years ago. If it was my plane, I would strip the gear legs to make sure there is no corrosion and redo the fairings and lines. The job isn't as bad as it sounds and you will know the gear is done right. 
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I need to add that the flex hoses on my RV-6 run from the firewall bulkhead fitting all the way to the caliper. I built these hoses out of speed shop AN fittings and stainless braided hose but they are available pre-made at reasonable prices.
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02-25-2011, 12:15 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Battleground
Posts: 4,348
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Sam is spot on...
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Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Jeff,
One of the concerns with "sealed" gear legs is corrosion caused by moisture entrapment that goes unseen. Sealing the legs was done occassionally years ago but was never considered standard procedure.
The flexible lines are really nice, I changed my rigid lines to flex a couple of years ago. If it was my plane, I would strip the gear legs to make sure there is no corrosion and redo the fairings and lines. The job isn't as bad as it sounds and you will know the gear is done right. 
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Those fairings need to come off. My neighbor sealed his early 6 and discovered corrosion doing a wheel pant upgrade. He was able to save the gear legs, but just barely.
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02-25-2011, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florence, AL
Posts: 626
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonJay
Those fairings need to come off. My neighbor sealed his early 6 and discovered corrosion doing a wheel pant upgrade. He was able to save the gear legs, but just barely.
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Yeh, I guess we need to get them off.. Not really looking forward to that..
I guess I need to look into picking up some fairings.. How much of a problem is building up new fairings?
Keep in mind, we were buyers and not builders..
Last edited by Tram : 02-25-2011 at 04:12 PM.
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