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Old 02-13-2011, 11:23 AM
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Default Alternate Static Valve

One simple way to provide for an Alternate Static source is to run the primary static line to a pnuematic 3-port switch; have the primary port (primary switch position) feeding the instruments and the secondary port (secondary switch position) open to the cockpit. The common valves I've seen are brass, and I just didn't want the weight and look of brass; so I went looking. I found an all-aluminum-body 3-port toggle switch perfect for the above stated application and thought I'd pass it along: ARO valve #M251LS - G1130. I ordered mine from WW Grainger and their p/n is 3NB16. I received it yesterday and it is just what I was after.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:21 PM
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Hi Larry,

I have one of those on my desk and while it's a fine valve, here are the reasons we decided not to stock it:

While it is aluminum, it actually weighs more than the little brass one we do stock, it's about 3 times the size (larger) and about double the price. While you'll still see a tiny little bit of brass sticking through the panel, the toggle is still chrome...a sharpie does wonders if you want to make the brass part black.

Anyway, it's not a bad valve that you have and will work fine (we've used them before) so it's not meant as a flame, just as a data point.

My 2 cents as usual.

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Old 02-13-2011, 05:36 PM
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Two inexpensive ways to go. Both work well, a save some money and you will probably never need it.

1- use a small tee fitting with a cap on the tee which can be taken off.

2- cut the line with a pair of side cutters. A union can always be used for repair.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:46 AM
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Darn Stein, I just should have talked with you first !! And I really like Norman's idea of just cutting the line - now that is "git-er-done" !!! Thanks guys.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:07 AM
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just make sure you have scissors or a pocket knife, may be tough using your teeth
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:07 AM
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Another thing I like about the static switch, is that you can try it when ever you want (without something so drastic as cutting a line) and get a feel for the difference (error) it will cause. Adds some understanding to how sensitive the pitot static system is.

Bevan

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Old 02-14-2011, 11:28 AM
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Two inexpensive ways to go. Both work well, a save some money and you will probably never need it.

1- use a small tee fitting with a cap on the tee which can be taken off.
The added benefit is to allow you to easily hook into the T for static check. I added the T to my pitot line also for testing.

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Old 02-14-2011, 11:41 AM
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Years ago we were taught to smash the VSI if the static line got frozen over. But that is kinda hard to do with today's glass cockpits.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:46 AM
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The added benefit is to allow you to easily hook into the T for static check. I added the T to my pitot line also for testing.

Kent
Exactly! And with the QD fittings (like Stein sells, among others) you can just put a plug in it - very easy to release if required, and a service point for those two-year checks.
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