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01-31-2011, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Freehold, NJ
Posts: 4
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Newbie Questions
Hi all,
I am considering buying an already built RV-6A or 7A to fulfill a lifelong dream of owning my own airplane. I am a current military pilot but don't have much
experience in GA aircraft. I am also considering buying a Cessna Cardinal. The top of my budget is around $65K, but I'd like to stay lower than that if possible
to have some reserve $ left over for the inevitable expenses.
Part of my typical "mission" will be cross country flights (about 600 mile radius from N.J.). The extra seat or two (depending on weight) in the Cardinal would
be nice, but I don't think I'd use it/them that much, and I'd love to go upside down again.
Compared to other "traditional" airplanes, how is the RV6A as an IFR platform as far as stability, work load, etc.? I'd like to hear from pilots who have flown
both types.
Is an autopilot with alt hold a desirable thing in the RV6 compared to other types of single engine airplanes?
Compared to other "traditional" airplanes, how is the RV6A comfort level for two average size people on longer (3+ hour) trips?
Can you do "leisurley" aerobatics with 360 lb of people in it?
Thanks in advance.
J.D.
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01-31-2011, 08:31 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Peachtree City, Ga
Posts: 1,039
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Advice on RV vs Cardinal
RV for sure wins!
>Maintenance and parts: saves a bundle
>Performance
>Acro (you'll be solo most of the time)
>Formation
> Cool friends (fellow RV'ers)
>Fun!
Note: As an A&P I feel sorry for those who own older certified aircraft as maintenance is tougher and tougher to obtain. Parts are hard to find and mechanics who understand and want to work on older planes are dying off/retiring. Save yourself a headache and go for an RV.
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Vern Darley
Awarded FAA "The Wright Brothers 'Master Pilot' Award"- for 50 years safe flying
RV-6A N680V / RV-10QB N353RV
Luscombe 8E N2423K 50+years
Hatz Biplane N2423Z soon to be birthed
Falcon RV Squadron Founder
KFFC Hanger D-30
Peachtree City, Ga
770 310-7169
EAA Technical Counselor #5142
EAA Flight Advisor #486336
ATP/CFI/A&P/DAR
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01-31-2011, 09:37 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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Welcome to VAF!!!!
J.D., welcome to VAF
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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01-31-2011, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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Welcome J.D.
FWIW, an RV-6 is two inches wider than a Skyhawk. It's cozy but comfortable and I've done many 2 1/2 hour trips and a few 3 hours without discomfort, and you gotta realize, that's almost 600 miles!
You can do all of your own maintenance, as Vern pointed out and only need an A@P for condition (annual) inspections, not an IA.
Parts costs are waaaaay lower than certed airplanes.
Get a ride in one and you'll be convinced. Leisurely acro at gross is no problem....like aileron rolls, etc.
Best,
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Pierre Smith
RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
Air Tractor 402 PT-6-20 Sold
EAA Flight Advisor/CFI/Tech Counselor
Louisville, Ga
It's never skill or craftsmanship that completes airplanes, it's the will to do so,
Patrick Kenny, EAA 275132
Dues gladly paid!
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01-31-2011, 10:16 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: KANE, Hugo, Minnesota
Posts: 765
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Watch the higher roll rates...
What makes the 6 so fun to fly makes it not so great for IFR. Now, while I am ducking  let me say that many people do equip their 6's for IFR and fly them that way. The Cardinal is by far a way more stable IFR platform but you can't have as much fun with a Cardinal as you can a 6. If you are going to fly regular IFR in a 6 you will need multiple axis autopilot.
Personally, the high roll rates in a 6 would make me think twice about flying IFR in one. Thats why I picked the 9. Much more stable IFR platform. But you can't do acro...rats whats a guy to do. BUY TWO PLANES! One for acro, one for IFR. 
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Aaron Arvig
RV-9A
Empennage Done
Wings-In Progress
N568AK Reserved
SOLD?but I'll be back
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01-31-2011, 06:30 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 64
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Corvette or Cadillac?
We had a 1971 C-177B for 10 years and sold it when the RV-6 was ready to fly.
We also completed a RV-8 a year ago.
I would describe the Cardinal as a Cadillac and a RV as a Corvette in terms of their handling qualities.
Paul
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02-10-2011, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Freehold, NJ
Posts: 4
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Thanks
Thanks for all the advice. It looks like finding a 6 or 7 with an autopilot would do the trick.
I've never flown in one, so that is my next step in this process.
J.D.
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02-10-2011, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sherwood, Oregon
Posts: 981
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J.D.,
This one popped up right here today and looks like it's priced within your budget. Of course, due diligence required so buyer should get a knowledgeable RV person to take a look.
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ad.php?t=68337
I've told friends I'd give up flying before going back to an old Cessna, that is unless someone would give me a Corvallis TT and pay for gas, etc... But then again, no acro...
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Jerry Cochran
Sherwood, Oregon
RV-7a 707DD Bot from David Domeier 12/01/11
Lycoming IO-360 Catto 3 blade Panel upgrade in progress
RV6a 18XP 1st flite 03/21/07 sold to Dale Walter 10/22/2011
Superior IO-360, Hartzell Blended, GRT/Dynon
Happily "autopaying" DR
"Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself."
Mark Twain
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02-10-2011, 11:40 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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JD,
I lived in Freehold for five years before transferring to Charlotte and was a member of EAA 315. I would suggest you join 315 and try getting a ride in an RV before laying any cash on the table.
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Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
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02-10-2011, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Destin
Posts: 1,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N941WR
JD,
I lived in Freehold for five years before transferring to Charlotte and was a member of EAA 315. I would suggest you join 315 and try getting a ride in an RV before laying any cash on the table.
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though if you need a different opinion, i started my tail before i flew in one
never looked back, have over 6hrs DUAL in rv6 now
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