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01-11-2011, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: KANE, Hugo, Minnesota
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Socket for a bucking bar??
Has anyone ever shaved the thicker end of a socket flat and used it as a bucking bar? I am riveting my rudder horn brace to the rudder horn and I don't have anything laying around that can get in there. My squeezer doesn't fit and my bucking bars are to big. I have a bunch of old sockets laying around. I thought I would take one of them to the grinder and flatten the thick end of it and stick it over my finger and onto the rivet and hammer away. Thoughts...ideas?
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01-11-2011, 03:09 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fresno, CA
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Its worth a shot to try, but practice on a scrap piece first. Post pictures if successful or not, we can all learn what to or what not to do.
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01-11-2011, 04:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aarvig
Has anyone ever shaved the thicker end of a socket flat and used it as a bucking bar? I am riveting my rudder horn brace to the rudder horn and I don't have anything laying around that can get in there. My squeezer doesn't fit and my bucking bars are to big. I have a bunch of old sockets laying around. I thought I would take one of them to the grinder and flatten the thick end of it and stick it over my finger and onto the rivet and hammer away. Thoughts...ideas?
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I did something similar with a the polished side of a crescent wrench in a few places. It worked ok for AD3 rivets but I wouldn't try it with anything bigger.
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01-11-2011, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Yarmouth, Nova Scotia
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You need mass. If you can add weight it would help.
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01-11-2011, 05:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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According to legend, every A&P has bucked a rivet with a dime. Also, every texan has drunk water from a hoofprint (True Grit).
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01-11-2011, 06:40 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Yardley, PA
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Ouch
I don't think I'd like to stick my finger in there...
If it's a deep enough socket, fill it half with molten lead to give it added mass, then fit in a wooden dowel to hold on to.
I used my squeezer yoke to buck the rivets on the horizontal stabilizer nose ribs.
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01-11-2011, 08:46 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Waco, Texas
Posts: 1,658
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OUCH!!! *%$)!# $%%! $#%^$!!!!
Man that's going to hurt. Try it and let us know!
I actually back riveted mine...
- Put the rivet in the hole.
- Put the rudder/rivet/hole on a back riveting plate.
- Grabbed a really big crow bar.
- Laid the crow bar on the backside of the rivet.
- Cranked the gun up to ~90 lbs.
- Shot the back side of the crowbar in bursts.
It's not the prettiest rivet in the airplane, but it isn't bad.
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01-11-2011, 09:54 PM
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01-12-2011, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: 45G, Brighton, MI
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It's been a while, and it was an RV-4, not a -9 but I remember being able to reach through the lightening hole with an Avery longeron yoke to squeeze all of those rivets.
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01-12-2011, 01:08 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
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You're talking about this piece, correct? I used a tungsten bucking bar, no problem. If you don't have one yet, this is a good reason to get one.

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