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12-12-2010, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Smoke system benefits/uses
Rather than have my review of the Smoking Airlines system become a thread on uses, it makes more sense to discuss uses/benefits here.
Initially I was going to use it when ATC called out traffic (usually never seen) plus during flights when smoke would be beneficial for ground based observers.
Then two other uses were mentioned:
1) During departure/arrival to an airport when other aircraft have not found you yet.
2) To help form up when aircraft are miles apart (such as arriving from different starting points).
Today, just days after my smoke system became operational, I had my first valid use. I had taken off after two other RVs with the intent to get some performance data. When I heard the other RVs discussing the worse than usual turbulence, I changed plans and decided to try to find them.
I headed north and waited until they were headed south. Several seconds of smoke and they found me right away. I did not see them (about 1500' lower) until they told me I was overhead, turned left and saw them.
No discussing distance and heading to our airport. They had me far quicker than the way we normally try to join up.
Then during the overhead approach I looked down and saw a nice shadow from the smoke.
The only negative is that another RV pilot was driving and saw me and thought that the plane with the smoke was a Yak.
Last edited by Ron Lee : 12-12-2010 at 09:08 PM.
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12-12-2010, 07:49 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Another good use for smoke...
Burning money. At over $300 per hour!
(0.8 gal per minute times 60 minutes times $8 per gallon = $384 per hour!)
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RV-8, "Miss Izzy", 2250 Hours - Sold
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12-12-2010, 08:14 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronschreck
Burning money. At over $300 per hour!
(0.8 gal per minute times 60 minutes times $8 per gallon = $384 per hour!)
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Avoiding mid-airs: priceless.
What are you using that is only $8 USD a gallon. I am pleased that once I get through the $17/gallon stuff I have it drops to $10/gallon.
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12-12-2010, 08:18 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Lee
What are you using that is only $8 USD a gallon. I am pleased that once I get through the $17/gallon stuff I have it drops to $10/gallon.
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I don't buy it at all any more. Too expensive for me. I let the air show organizers buy it for me.
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Ron Schreck
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RV-8, "Miss Izzy", 2250 Hours - Sold
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12-12-2010, 08:36 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 321
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TCAS or PCAS
I smoke during all of the previously mentioned phases of flight AND
any time my Zaon PCAS tells me there's a transponder in the vicinity.
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Sierra Skypark (KE79) Fresno CA
RV-8, XP360, RV200
Flown Sept. 12, 2007
1600 hours on the hobbs and loving it
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12-12-2010, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
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If you flew much around DFW......
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcone1
I smoke during all of the previously mentioned phases of flight AND
any time my Zaon PCAS tells me there's a transponder in the vicinity.
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You would have it on about 95% of the time.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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12-12-2010, 10:05 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jeffersonville, IN
Posts: 463
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Smoke oil
So why not use straight diesel like Tony Spicer has in his smoke system? Seems like it should work pretty well and cost a lot less. That's my plan unless I am missing something here? Thanks. Dave
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12-13-2010, 05:52 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Why not?
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Originally Posted by db8
So why not use straight diesel like Tony Spicer has in his smoke system? Seems like it should work pretty well and cost a lot less. That's my plan unless I am missing something here? Thanks. Dave
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BOOM! 
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Ron Schreck
IAC National Judge
RV-8, "Miss Izzy", 2250 Hours - Sold
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12-13-2010, 05:56 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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To be more specific....
! WARNING ----- WARNING ----- WARNING !
DO NOT USE FLAMMABLE SUBSTANCES SUCH AS GASOLINE OF ANY TYPE, KEROSENE, DIESEL, JET-A, ALCOHOL OR ANY OTHER FLUID NOT LISTED ON THIS PAGE.
USE OF HIGHLY FLAMMABLE FLUID COULD CAUSE AN EXPLOSION
OR FIRE RESULTING IN SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH.
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Ron Schreck
IAC National Judge
RV-8, "Miss Izzy", 2250 Hours - Sold
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12-13-2010, 07:55 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jeffersonville, IN
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