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12-10-2010, 03:48 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: California
Posts: 60
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P-Mag MAP plumbing question?
I'm installing a set of P-mags this weekend and I can't figure out the best way to plumb in my MAP tubes. My MP gauge uses a tiny (maybe 1/8'' OD) line connected to the primer port on the #1 cylinder. I have no idea where to look for hardware to tee into such a small line.
I have a plug in the primer port for my #3 cylinder, but it's not budging and I don't want to force it. Does anybody know what type/material barbed AN fitting would let me plug in the 1/8'' ID MAP tubes supplied with the P-mags?
If anybody has pictures from their install, that would be helpful as well!
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12-10-2010, 07:36 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
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Try Clippard
I had the same issue when I installed my P-Mags. I have a braided hose (-3) from the cylinder to a manifold mounted on the firewall. In the manifold, I installed a couple of 1/8"NPT-to-barbed fittings from Clippard ( www.clippard.com). I don't recall the specific P/N, but there is a wide selection so you can probably find something to meet your needs. Clippard supplies the barbed fittings used in the P-mag.
Good luck,
Dean Pichon
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12-10-2010, 08:17 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Boise, ID
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Cylinders have two 1/8 NPT holes on top and bottom at the intake side. Your current line occupies one of them. Try using one of the other 7. Plan on using a #3 nipple or elbow, but first drill and tap 10-32 for one of the P-mag style barb fittings. Get one from E-mag, find a barb tee to fit the hose and hook it up. You could also use a steel braided hose so the tube isn't attached to a warm barb, and run the hose to a similarly tapped AN tee mounted off-engine.
John Siebold
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12-10-2010, 08:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Don't forget to put something in the MAP line to smooth the power pulses. Otherwise, you will have no idea what MAP the P-mags will use to set the timing.
Do a search, there are a lot of good suggestions already on this forum on how to restrict the MAP line.
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Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
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12-10-2010, 10:49 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Midland, Michigan 3BS Hanger 4B and sometimes at home
Posts: 159
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aquarium air
fittings may work for the small lines and listen to Bill R. he knows P-Mags.
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Patrick Howe
Citabria 7KCAB - sold
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12-10-2010, 11:46 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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Hey Pat, I hope all is well with you! We were in Midland for Thanksgiving but never made it out to the airport to see who was around. How's the -8?
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Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
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12-10-2010, 11:49 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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One other P-mag tip, support the vacuum lines with appropriate sized Adel clamps. Zip ties will simply clamp the lines shut.
You can see how I did it in this picture. Look closely and you can see the Tee fitting that drops down towards the right P-mag.
To time my P-mags, I pull the hose off on the firewall side of the Tee and insert a small section which I can blow on.
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Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
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12-10-2010, 06:07 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bridgewater, MA - KPYM
Posts: 457
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One option is to run the MAP from the cylinder to a manifold on the firewall where you can use different fittings to feed both the gauge and pmags. I purchased a nylon tee at the local big box hardware store. I used the tee to split the line for the pmags.

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Mike Draper
RV-8 N468RV
First Flight 11/13/2011
TMX0360, Pmags, CS
Bridgewater, MA
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Last edited by drill_and_buck : 12-10-2010 at 06:14 PM.
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