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12-03-2010, 06:34 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Acrobatic flight prohibited
I brought into a Pazmany PL-1 partnership so I can have fun while building my RV-7A. There; this is my RV related content for this post. 
PL-1's are designed for aerobatic, but this Pazmany's operating limitations state "9. Acrobatic flight is permitted/prohibited" with the word "permitted" typed over with X's. It went on to say "Only those acrobatics/maneuvers which have been satisfactorily executed during the flight test period and documented in the aircraft log are permitted after leaving the assigned test area."
I am wondering if that means we need to put this Pazmany back into phase 1 test flights to lift the "acrobatic flight is prohibited" limitation?
If so, what is the procedure to put it back into phase 1, and for how many hours?
Thanks in advance.
Robin Hou
Robin Hou
Last edited by RobinHou : 12-03-2010 at 06:35 PM.
Reason: spelling
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12-03-2010, 06:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Robin, You can not lift this limitation yourself.
You can have the operating limitations amended to include aerobatics. The FSDO or any DAR with function codes 33 and 46 can issue an amended airworthiness certificate and operating limitations for your aircraft.
The inspector would probably want to inspect the aircraft to make sure that there is not some reason that aerobatics were initially prohibited.
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12-03-2010, 11:34 PM
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And...
In addition, (Mel please correct me if I'm wrong, yet again) after getting the op lims amended, you will have to go back in to Phase One, and perform and document all the aerobatic maneuvers you wish to do, and make an entry in your maintenance log. All the while complying with your op limits.
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12-04-2010, 06:34 AM
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Yep!
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Originally Posted by PCHunt
In addition, (Mel please correct me if I'm wrong, yet again) after getting the op lims amended, you will have to go back in to Phase One, and perform and document all the aerobatic maneuvers you wish to do, and make an entry in your maintenance log. All the while complying with your op limits.
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Exactly right.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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12-07-2010, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Thanks Mel & Pete
One more question:
How long do I need to put it back in phase one? 40 hours?
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12-07-2010, 09:46 PM
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Again, Check you operating limitations. Usually there is a 5 hour minimum. That should be plenty of time.
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EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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