Clouds on the Innodyn Horizon

Kyle Boatright · #1 03-17-2006, 04:47 PM

Here's today's update on their website:

http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/news..._03_17_06.html

osxuser · #2 03-17-2006, 09:40 PM

Seems like the same song-and-dance as usual.

gmcjetpilot · #3 03-17-2006, 09:41 PM

If you want a turbine buy an Alison or Walter and get a plane big enough to handle +400hp (to 750hp). be ready to have a $1/4 mil into a turbine plane. Even if you could get an Innodyn you would have a toy not a real Turbine aircraft. G

ww2planes · #4 03-17-2006, 10:34 PM

Go Innodyn. I hope that you build a very nice and safe turbine. I hope that you sell a million of them and become a viable alternative for those of us that did not kick you in the teeth every time your name was mentioned. I would love to have a nice turbine on the front of my 7, even if I have to add extra fuel.

For those naysayers that are about to pipe in, I have had no luck with my mails to Innodyn but that does not mean that everyone has had the same experience. Don't care what others have to say, I like the idea that they have come up with. Someone has to test it and I would be glad to do it. There will be failures and successes until the day that the doors close, just ask Lycoming.

Nothing was ever perfect right out of the box. Trial and error make things better. That is called research.

I am glad that they are delaying shipping until the product is correct. It was nice of them to post the announcement regarding the delay and their not appearing as sun. Maybe this is a step in the right direction for this company.

aadamson · #5 03-18-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ww2planes

Nothing was ever perfect right out of the box. Trial and error make things better. That is called research.

So let me see if I have this right.... And *you* want to put the above on *your* airplane, with *your butt* in the seat and *your* wife/sig other in the other seat and blast off into the wild blue yonders..........

Uh, huh, I'll watch while you do it ok?

mlw450802 · #6 03-18-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ww2planes

Nothing was ever perfect right out of the box. Trial and error make things better. That is called research.

And aren't we all fortunate that the Wrights had this same attitude.

-mike

gmcjetpilot · #7 03-18-2006, 01:50 PM

I appreciate enthusiasm. I too am enthusiastic, but it has taken a beating as I get older.

I think all those who have said, give Innodyn a break, I say good for you, but for me they have forfeited their support. They have promised, promised and promised. Their claimed performance and fuel burn is suspect. Add all the delays delays and delays. I guess the hold up is not only technical, its a money issue. They are not getting enough money in to keep going. I also feel sorry for all those who sent them deposits, fellow airplane builders, and that is where my loyalties are

http://www.avweb.com/newswire/12_03b.../191404-1.html

I still say that a good turbine will cost you $60K-$125K min. The ones that I think would work for a real plane (hydraulic prop, real fuel controller) are the Garrett TPE331, Alison250 and the Walter M601. All these are in the 400hp and up range. The RV is not a good match for a 400-650hp engine. It has nothing to do with negativeness towards Innodyn, it is then current state of affairs. To me Innodyn is a novelty engine, not a real turbo prop.

George

PS, The Wright Bros, did not send out lots of press releases take deposits before flying.

ww2planes · #8 03-18-2006, 02:01 PM

I would be glad to put my but in that seat, however, I am not a moron and would not risk another person. I am not an expert on turbines or pistons and will never pretend to be. I encourage dreamers and my wife says that I am a dreamer. She mostly said it when I told her that I wanted to build and fly my own plane. Guess what, my dream is coming true.

If Innodyn comes up with a turbine that I can put on my plane then good for the dreamers. I remember, not too long ago, many people bashing Egg for his conversions. Still goes on today but to a much lesser degree. Each day he is showing you that his dream was a good one and that his untrusted product can be a trusted one. I hope that Innodyn does the same.

Turbines are not new and I doubt that Innodyn has created a brand new product with all new technology of the likes that the world has never seen. It looks to me that they are trying to satisfy a niche that they believe exists by scaling down from a large mega horsepower turbine so that folks like me can have one.

mlw450802 · #9 03-18-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gmcjetpilot

PS, The Wright Bros, did not send out lots of press releases take deposits before flying.

My reference was to WW2PLANES' attitude, not Innodyne's

aadamson · #10 03-18-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ww2planes

Turbines are not new and I doubt that Innodyn has created a brand new product with all new technology of the likes that the world has never seen. It looks to me that they are trying to satisfy a niche that they believe exists by scaling down from a large mega horsepower turbine so that folks like me can have one.

Ah, I see, you haven't done your homework on this one.... It's *not new*, it was used as an APU in helicopters, it doesn't burn 7g/100hp, more like 13-16. The only thing thats new is the adaptation of automobile fuel injectors to the housing and a computer to control the fuel. But come on don't you think that if you could claim 7g/100hp, you'd absolutely want to prove it and take massive amounts of orders. They have done just the opposite, claim, but not prove and take no orders.... Oh, and that was after they took everyones money the first time and never paid them back... This is a company that has been around for some time, made all these claims and never delivered.

As I said, I'll watch ya