New Transponder from Dynon

[NDrv8r]

Inside the front page of the august sport aviation, Dynon has an advertisement that lists the 10" skyview at $4800. Dynon's website still lists it at $3600. Did the price just make a big jump or does the $4800 include the Adahrs?

[DFlyer]

Larry- $4,800 includes the ADAHRS. I wanted to fairly compare the price to the D10A and D100, which have the sensors built in. I may be in marketing , but I strive to be open and above board with our pricing and product information.
-Robert
Dynon Marketing

[vlittle]

OK, here's the deal: A 1090ES transponder can only provide ADS-B Out information.

To receive traffic information (and for that matter, weather), a UAT receiver (or TCAS for traffic) is required. This is a new function not included with Dynon's transponder. However, the forthcoming UAT boxes are transceivers, thus satisfying the legal requiremenst for ADS-B Out without a 1090 ES transponder.

So what's the point of a 1090ES transponder (like Garmin and now Dynon) provide? Well, for one thing, 1090ES is the only standard support outside of the USA (for now), and it's cheap to provide the capability in a transponder.

UAT is a US-only standard, but provides significant capability in the cockpit as mentioned above and is target to General Aviation. It can't be used for ADS-B Out at the flight levels, however.

Both standards will require an IFR-certified GPS receiver... and that's where the big bucks reside.

Sooo... there's got to be more boxes on the Dynon roadmap: A UAT Transceiver (or possibly a Receive-only for traffic and weather). Also, an IFR-certified GPS module that meets the ADS-B Out requirements. Throw in a Comm box and a coffee maker and we're done. Well, almost. I think we need a 3" Skyview EFIS as well.

See how easy it is to spend Dynon's R&D dollars? I pity the marginal players in the EFIS arms race!

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[RudiGreyling]

Originally Posted by DFlyer

<SNIP>

They also allow USA TIS traffic displayed on the SkyView map and synthetic vision displays.

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-Robert
Dynon Marketing

What does "USA TIS traffic" mean for non USA customers, can we see the traffic too?

[Rainier Lamers]

Originally Posted by RudiGreyling

What does "USA TIS traffic" mean for non USA customers, can we see the traffic too?

No.
Unless you are flying close to an airport that broadcasts TIS in the U.S. you do not see traffic. This is not to be confused with TCAS.

Wait for implementation of ADS-B which eventually will be pretty much World-wide. This will give you traffic anywhere as well as WX and other information useful to the average aviator. This should also replace TIS in the U.S.

You can find more information about this transponder and what it can do at www.trig-avionics.com. Effectively you are looking at the TT21 and TT22. It's a good transponder but no different to a basic mode-a/c if you are not in a country that has mode-s implemented.

Rainier
CEO MGL Avionics

[dynonsupport]

TIS and ADS-B (which includes the TIS-B and FIS-B traffic and weather services) can get a bit confusing. We posted this post to our blog the other day to get some knowledge out there about them and how they relate to our recent announcement. It doesn't cover everything, but there's enough there to hopefully straighten some of the confusion out.

Mike Schofield
Dynon Marketing

[RudiGreyling]

Originally Posted by dynonsupport

TIS and ADS-B (which includes the TIS-B and FIS-B traffic and weather services) can get a bit confusing. We posted this post to our blog the other day to get some knowledge out there about them and how they relate to our recent announcement. It doesn't cover everything, but there's enough there to hopefully straighten some of the confusion out.

Mike Schofield
Dynon Marketing

Any idea if you going to support TCAS?

[dynonsupport]

We aren't working on a TCAS device, and didn't have any plans to interface with one under the assumption that they are $10K+ certified devices that no homebuilder would install. Are there affordable TCAS transceivers out there?

[Rainier Lamers]

I think you might be missunderstanding Rudi's question.
I think he wants to know if your optional ARINC box can interface to TCAS data streams a'la ARINC 735 which are not just generated by actual TCAS devices but by other pieces of equipment as well (for example Navworks traffic which is actually ADS-B but can be sent via an ARINC 735 TCAS file). I'm pretty sure your ARINC box should be able to do it.

Rainier
CEO MGL Avionics

Originally Posted by dynonsupport

We aren't working on a TCAS device, and didn't have any plans to interface with one under the assumption that they are $10K+ certified devices that no homebuilder would install. Are there affordable TCAS transceivers out there?