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07-14-2010, 11:30 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by RV6_flyer
I have the 2nd generation iPhone or the first model to have 3G service that is not the 3GS model.
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Stay miles away from ios4 on this phone. Upgrade to the i4 and it will run just fine. If you are still running a 2nd gen 3G (as I was until 2 weeks ago) you should be no-cost-upgrade-eligible.
Oh yeah, great app too.
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07-15-2010, 01:09 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by RV6_flyer
The App requires OS4 so looks like I will have to wait till after I get home from AirVenture to be able to download and try it. [snip] I have the 2nd generation iPhone or the first model to have 3G service that is not the 3GS model.
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Not to detract from how cool it is that this neat little app has been written, but if you have an iPhone 3G, my strong recommendation is do NOT upgrade to iOS4. It's simply not worth the pain. My 3G stalls for up to 10 seconds at a time... I'll be downgrading back to iOS3 and will live with that until the inevitable hardware upgrade down the track... [edit] Jeff, what is this magical "no cost upgrade" of which you speak? US only, I'm guessing :-(
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07-15-2010, 01:24 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Reno, NV
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So, being a bit of a junkie for speed testing, and having a Ram-mounted iPhone cradle in the plane...Don's app sounds great.
Hearing Condor's story of OSH phone nightmares, and Jeff's os warning, I'm wondering: is my one year old 3G one of the ones to avoid ios4 with?
I'm a bit version-challenged, as evidenced by the fact I bought a 3G one month before the 3GS came out (not a peep from them at the time of course!  ) Any thoughts on os management are most appreciated.
Not sure at 1 year post-purchase, that I'd be able to get the no cost phone upgrade, unless you know something I don't (a very likely scenario!  ). Will call ATT tomorrow, but from the smarter gadget guys...should I leave the 3G alone till the ios4 bugs get ironed out, or just wait till I can get a 4, and just use Kevin's spreadsheets till then?
I do want to be able to get in touch with the gang at OSH and provide vectors and progressive taxi instructions to our ice chest in Sleepy Hollow (hopefully somewhere near you Don...I've asked Pam), so I'm heeding Condor's warning till after the show! But a new toy...very inviting!
Cheers,
Bob
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07-15-2010, 03:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
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Welcome to my world
This is probably the best indication yet of what to expect if you upgrade to iOS4 on an iPhone 3G.
http://tv.gawker.com/5587280/how-doe...rst-commercial
And yes, it's real. That's exactly what it's like.

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07-15-2010, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MKE
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Bob,
You are correct- avoid upgrading to ios4 on your phone. You should contact AT&T (or look on their website) to check your upgrade eligibility for the new iphone 4, as they moved up the "get a new iphone without paying the early termination fee" date as part of the iphone 4 release. That was the "no cost upgrade" that I in-artfully mentioned before. My wife is in the same boat as you, bought a 3G a month before the 3GS came out, and she is eligible for upgrade.
AT&T's service at OSH '09 was abysmal, party because they got hit with a double whammy of not only the load on their normal network from all the smartphones, but they handled the wifi on the grounds. EAA has promised much better service this year- it literally couldn't get much worse.
@OP- sorry for the thread creep, but this is relevant info for anyone who wants to update their OS to be able to use your handy little app.
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Milwaukee
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07-15-2010, 03:37 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Great app and simple to use, thank you
I downloaded it last night and since I had never calibrated my airspeed, decided to check it out.
Fist test showed that my TAS was off by around 4-5 knots at cruise speed, then I calibrated my TAS on GRT and after tested again. The second test was off by 1 knot, I guess close enough.
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07-16-2010, 06:27 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cumming, GA
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ios3 support
I posted a version that doesn't require ios4. It takes a few days for apple to review and release. Check back in a few. Given past performance from apple in review apps, it might not be posted till next wed.
I have ios4 on my 3gs. I don't have any problems with slowness, but I do have major battery life issues. Frankly, there are a lot of issues with ios4, and I wouldn't recommend anyone upgrade until after a few patch releases have come out. I know there are many people with 3gs and ios4 with no issues, but the forums are filled with people having issues.
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Originally Posted by RV6_flyer
Went to download the App to try it out on my way to AirVenture. I have not updated to OS4 and refuse to do so till after AirVenture. The App requires OS4 so looks like I will have to wait till after I get home from AirVenture to be able to download and try it.
I updated to the latest Apple iPhone OS last year before going to OSH. My phone kept crashing and needed to reboot to get it working again. I do not want this happening again so will not be doing any UPDATES to my iPhone till at least the next month. After hearing so many people say how OS4 is slow, I am not sure I even want to try it. I have the 2nd generation iPhone or the first model to have 3G service that is not the 3GS model.
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07-16-2010, 11:42 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Reno, NV
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Jeff, Don and others: Thanks much for the info!
Jeff, checked, and sure enough, I'm eligible, and ATT will let me spend my $$ for a 4.
Of course, no ATT store, Apple store or Best Buy in town has them...gotta be ordered.
So it'll be OSH on my 3G with no ios4 (safest route to keep comms open at the show for vectors to and from the beer wagons...mine included, and $200 extra for gee-dunk at OSH!!) I'll get Don's app when it comes out in the 3G compatible version (checked today and it was the 4-only version still. Will get it and test it and report back when I do Don...thanks!)
One clarification on the hold-fire recommendation on ios4 Don: Is that just for (not getting) ios4 on a 3G/GS, or are you also recommending holding off on an iPhone4 till the first few patches are in? I know that piece is not really RV related, but it is a cockpit tool, so what the heck, figured I'd ask.
Thanks again!
Cheers,
Bob
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07-17-2010, 04:44 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
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Originally Posted by rvmills
One clarification on the hold-fire recommendation on ios4 Don: Is that just for (not getting) ios4 on a 3G/GS, or are you also recommending holding off on an iPhone4 till the first few patches are in? I know that piece is not really RV related, but it is a cockpit tool, so what the heck, figured I'd ask.
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You don't have a choice with the new phone, it comes with the new os.
bob
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07-17-2010, 07:40 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Keller, TX
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Originally Posted by apkp777
LOL!...Hey I'll have you know that I owed one of the first PDA's ever. It was an Apple circa 1991 or so. I forget what they called it. I know what I called it...
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Wasn't that the "Newton?"
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