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07-07-2010, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Vans fuel hose question
Anybody know why Vans fuel lines are dark red at each end of the fire sleeve? I'll be making a fuel hose myself here soon and was wondering whether they are dipped in some kind of sealant or treated otherwise, and whether it is required. Thanks!
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07-07-2010, 11:26 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
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The firesleeve is dipped in sealant at the ends to help prevent the woven fibers under the silicone outer layer from fraying, and also to help keep oil or fuel from wicking up into the fibers in case of a leak. It's not absolutely necessary, but helps the longevity of the firesleeve's ends.
You can use red high-temp RTV silicone gasket goo from a tube smeared around the cut ends of the firesleeve if you make your own lines. You probably don't want to buy any of the genuine firesleeve end-dip stuff, it's horribly expensive.
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07-07-2010, 06:12 PM
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This EAA video might be helpful to you also.
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07-07-2010, 06:26 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ridgeland, SC
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hose
Mike--What kind of hose are you going to be using?
Also, the red RTV is high temperature insurance in case there is flame, or high heat nearby. The RTV can act as a "flame blocker" over the fiberglass sheath, shielding it against damage.
Tom
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07-07-2010, 06:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Collins
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Hey Bob,
Thanks for the link. I searched for "fuel hose" and came up with "Aeroquip 816 Hose Fitting Installation."
Searched "fire sleeve" and came up with "Firesleeve-Installation & Removal."
Very informative! Can't wait to give it a try myself!
Thanks a bunch!
Mike
Last edited by mikehoover : 07-07-2010 at 06:35 PM.
Reason: New information.
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07-07-2010, 07:26 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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End dip for firesleeve P/N 5027 $128.75
This gets you a little can of this liquid gold!!!
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07-08-2010, 10:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantel
End dip for firesleeve P/N 5027 $128.75
This gets you a little can of this liquid gold!!!
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Yikes! I think I'll try the red RTV. I wonder if the RTV can be mixed with a solvent to get it in liquid form to allow dipping?
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07-08-2010, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Rhode Island
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RTV / MEK
You can absolutely mix red RTV and a solvent. I used MEK based on this very useful thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...hlight=mek+rtv
and I can confirm that it works great! I mixed it in a small baby food jar whose mouth is just bigger than the firesleeve to minimize the amount you have to mix and the waste. By the way Home Depot still sells MEK, just make sure to wear your organic solvents respirator!
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