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Old 07-05-2010, 03:43 PM
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Default Garmin 430 to GRT Horizon 1 Connection

Folks,

Had the internal battery replaced in the 430 (not a WAAS) and it's not talking to the EFIS any longer (GPS1 not receiving serial 5 and GPS2 not receiving serial 6). Believe it used to work, but really not certain as I bought the plane not long ago and have been working on other things, but am now at the point of learning the avionics better. Is the GRT user manual the best way to configure it to work? Think there are a few different ways to do it but not sure. If any best practices, please let me know.

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Tim
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Old 07-05-2010, 04:15 PM
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Your settings probably went back to factory defaults on the 430.

Just make sure the settings are proper on both the GRT and 430. You'll need both the GRT and 430 install manuals.

The 430 Install manual may be tough to find. PM your email if you need a copy.
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Old 07-05-2010, 04:32 PM
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I agree with Bob - when Garmin works on your 430, it comes back without some settings. Make sure that the Serial Port on the 430 that is conected to the GRT is set to "Aviation" format and 9600 baud (at least that's what my setup notes say).
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:31 AM
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I'm pretty sure both Bob and Paul are correct...which brings up a good point. After you install all of the avionics in the plane, take a few moments to snap some pictures of the config screens for various avionics (EFIS, GPS, A/P, etc..) so if later you need to re-set the settings you know exactly what they were. We try to do that with most panels in our shop, just to ease future maintenance. Most times avionics go to the mfgr the settings will be defaulted back to "new"...and need reprogrammed. It's a lot easier if you know exactly what they were.

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Old 07-06-2010, 09:38 AM
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Hmm. Just take a picture of the config. What a novel idea. Maybe I should do that . As opposed to the big fat matrix of config settings I wrote for my documentation.
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:08 PM
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Great guidance and ideas. Can't wait to give it a whirl this weekend, Tim
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Old 07-11-2010, 02:44 PM
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Default EFIS has GPS Now from the 430, but no VOR/ILS - Need ARINC 429?

Made some progress this weekend with the 430. Changed the 430's Channel 1 output to "Aviation" as suggested by one of the guys and now I have GPS on the GRT EFIS display unit (doesn't have an internal GPS).

Question, does anyone know if you need to have ARINC 429 to display the VOR/ILS on the EFIS from the 430? I saw in the wiring diagram only one wire from the 430 to EFIS via an RS232 connection for GPS. The only VOR/ILS I saw consisted of four wires going from the 430 to an ARINC 429 / EFIS / EHSI module with two wires labeled GPS and the other two labeled VOR/ILS, leads me to believe I need ARINC 429. Appreciate confirmation if anyone knows this.

Thanks as always, Tim
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:08 PM
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the VOR/ILS can come across via either the ARINC or analog lines.

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Old 07-11-2010, 09:19 PM
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Default LOC I think, not VOR

It is my understanding (since I am wired but not tested/flown) that VOR data from a 430 must go through ARINC in order to be shown on GRT H1.

I am not installing an ARINC receiver on my H1. According to the GRT manuals for the units I have, I can (and have) wired direct from the 430 to the H1 for Localizer and Glideslope. No VOR. If I need a VOR needle, I'll look at the 430 display itself.

This is not the simplest way to wire a 430 to an H1, only the cheapest. So yep, I squeak...
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:05 AM
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Thanks Bill. Do you remember how you configured the 430 for the ILS connection(s) to the H1? I see there are four channels on the 430, I set the first one to Aviation and GPS works fine. I'm not certain the other three channels need to be set for ILS if you wired them direct, but as of now I haven't noticed ILS displaying on the H1 so was wondering if that may be the reason, or mayber there's a setting on the H1 to set. Or maybe it's user error on the 430, i.e., I don't have it in the right mode.

I didn't wire it so guess I'll need to open the panel to see the connections.

Any thoughts appreciated, Tim
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