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06-07-2010, 06:51 AM
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Sounds like you are running aviation plugs. When I first installed my pmag I used aviation plugs with the plug wire kit supplied by emag air. I had very similar symptoms to what you are experiencing with intermittant problems. It turns out that 2 of the plug wires were making intermittant connections. I finally found that the little washer on the plug end of the harness had cut into the wire. I never really liked the way their aviation plug connecters were fabricated, so I switched to auto plugs with more bullet proof connectors on the harness. I have not had a single problem since. Intermittant loss of spark to the 2 plugs you keep changing would account for the fouling. My bet is that those 2 plug wires are bad.
Last edited by sadams : 06-07-2010 at 07:04 AM.
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06-07-2010, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Elmendorf,TX
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Quite possible
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Originally Posted by sadams
Sounds like you are running aviation plugs. When I first installed my pmag I used aviation plugs with the plug wire kit supplied by emag air. I had very similar symptoms to what you are experiencing with intermittant problems. It turns out that 2 of the plug wires were making intermittant connections. I finally found that the little washer on the plug end of the harness had cut into the wire. I never really liked the way their aviation plug connecters were fabricated, so I switched to auto plugs with more bullet proof connectors on the harness. I have not had a single problem since. Intermittant loss of spark to the 2 plugs you keep changing would account for the fouling. My bet is that those 2 plug wires are bad.
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Quite possible. I would love to run auto plugs, but my engine requires long reach plugs. None of the adapters I have found are suitable for long reach plugs.
I'm going to be rechecking everything today. I'll also try to hook up to their computer program (oh Joy, another couple hours spent fabricating and routing a cable).
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N131RV - RV-7A, IO360A1B6, CS
Rebuilt as TD
Added dual MGL EFIS.
Airborne again at last! 2/21/2009
Elmendorf, TX (28TE)
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06-07-2010, 08:26 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sadams
Sounds like you are running aviation plugs. When I first installed my pmag I used aviation plugs with the plug wire kit supplied by emag air. I had very similar symptoms to what you are experiencing with intermittant problems. It turns out that 2 of the plug wires were making intermittant connections. I finally found that the little washer on the plug end of the harness had cut into the wire. I never really liked the way their aviation plug connecters were fabricated, so I switched to auto plugs with more bullet proof connectors on the harness. I have not had a single problem since. Intermittant loss of spark to the 2 plugs you keep changing would account for the fouling. My bet is that those 2 plug wires are bad.
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I agree. Look hard at the plug wires. When I upgraded my -4 with dual P-Mags, I received the "crimp your own kit" for the plug harness and was rather underwhelmed. I returned it to EMag for the the pre-fabricated (auto plug) harness which seems far better than the first option. The system has been great for the past 18 months. Hang in there...
Dean Pichon
Bolton, MA
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06-07-2010, 09:41 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,523
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Lighspeed has long reach adapters.. you could get 'em from them..
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06-07-2010, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Elmendorf,TX
Posts: 358
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Called Lightspeed
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Originally Posted by Radomir
Lighspeed has long reach adapters.. you could get 'em from them..
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I called to ask about them. Got voicemail, but less than 1/2 hour later, they called me back. I have ordered the adapters and plugs.
Still waiting for Emagair to call me back, I left another message.
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Joe Portman
N131RV - RV-7A, IO360A1B6, CS
Rebuilt as TD
Added dual MGL EFIS.
Airborne again at last! 2/21/2009
Elmendorf, TX (28TE)
baron (AT) baron (dot) com
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06-07-2010, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 1,053
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I think Brad may not be back from vacation or trip yet. I received an email about a week ago that he would be on the road for about a week.
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06-07-2010, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NorCal
Posts: 565
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E-Mag / P-Mag
Sorry for the thread drift, but, what's the difference between e-mags and p-mags?
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06-07-2010, 04:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,061
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Pmag makes it's own power.
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Fullerton, Ca. w/beautiful 2.5 year old son 
RV-4 99% built  and sold 
Rag and tube project well under way
paid =VAF= dues through June 2013
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06-07-2010, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NorCal
Posts: 565
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OK, so...
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Originally Posted by szicree
Pmag makes it's own power.
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...they're made by the same company, E-Mag Ignitions.
Wonder if there is a handy table or chart comparing the several electronic ignition options for experimentals?
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06-07-2010, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Elmendorf,TX
Posts: 358
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Still no call back
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Originally Posted by rvator51
I think Brad may not be back from vacation yet.
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It would be nice if their voice jail indicated "we're on vacation until _____" instead of "we're on the shop floor or with a customer".
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Hangared since 11/23/2011, working on getting airborne again!
Joe Portman
N131RV - RV-7A, IO360A1B6, CS
Rebuilt as TD
Added dual MGL EFIS.
Airborne again at last! 2/21/2009
Elmendorf, TX (28TE)
baron (AT) baron (dot) com
Last edited by N131RV : 06-07-2010 at 04:49 PM.
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