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Old 05-08-2015, 04:39 AM
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As well as trimming the front of the nylon seat runners about 3/8 inch to allow the seat to be removed rearward, you might also consider fitting nut plates under the seat stops, you need to replace the existing Bots with longer ones but the seat removal then only requires removing two bolts that hold the stops and the seats slide right off, no need to remove the T Handle bracket. Not my idea but works like a dream. Cheers from Western Australia
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Old 05-10-2015, 04:05 PM
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I fitted the seats today.

I put the chamfer on the front of the plastic and cut the rear of the rails. After scratching my head a bit and finally working it out, I didn't see the point of nutplates on the T-handle. You can't get a socket on the outside and if you lift the seat cushion, access to the nuts is easy.

First seat took me 2 hours. Second one, 20 minutes. Thinks - if it seems THAT hard, you are probably doing something wrong We live and learn.....
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Old 05-10-2015, 04:27 PM
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I After scratching my head a bit and finally working it out, I didn't see the point of nutplates on the T-handle. You can't get a socket on the outside and if you lift the seat cushion, access to the nuts is easy.
Nut plates go on the T handle body, bolts go in from the inside------just lift the seat cushion and remove the bolts.



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Old 05-10-2015, 04:50 PM
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I fitted the seats today.

After scratching my head a bit and finally working it out, I didn't see the point of nutplates on the T-handle. ....
It all depends on how much, if any, interior you install between the T handle and the outside cabin wall. I have none, access is easy. Others have put side panels in there and now find it hard to get at the outboard side of the T handle.
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:32 AM
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I have the Flightline interior and it was no problem inserting the bolts from the outside and getting a spanner on them.
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Old 05-11-2015, 05:33 AM
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Now that we've got trimming the front of the nylon runners as an easier option than chopping off the rear of the seat rails past the brains trust, its a pretty easy step to see that by putting two nut plates per seat under the Seat Floors F1067A to secure the seat rail stops means that now only two (longer) easily accessed bolts need to be removed so the seat rail stops can be removed and then the seat just slides off rearward. So........no need to fit four nut plates per seat to the T handle assembly, no need to remove the T handle assembly for seat removal, no need to lift the cushions to access bolts or nuts etc, just a real good idea, wasn't mine but it was on Matronics or VAF some time ago. Cheers from Western Australia
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:54 PM
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>>its a pretty easy step to see that by putting two nut plates per seat under the Seat Floors F1067A to secure the seat rail stops means that now only two (longer) easily accessed bolts need to be removed so the seat rail stops can be removed and then the seat just slides off rearward. So........no need to fit four nut plates per seat to the T handle assembly, no need to remove the T handle assembly for seat removal, no need to lift the cushions to access bolts or nuts etc, just a real good idea,<<

Exactly. That's what I did and it works great. Easier to mod and more user friendly to access than the T handle IMO.
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Old 06-08-2015, 05:19 PM
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Ok so I had my unmodified front seats out working on my interior and on a whim decided to try and reinstall them without removing the carpet or more importantly the flap torque tube covers . And....the seats went on just fine. I could see that had the carpet not been on the covers that they most likely would have been scratched, but a piece of tape strategically placed on the covers would have prevented that.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:24 PM
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What is your builder number? Is it possible Vans has made a small mod (and not advertised it)? Be interesting to compare your seats, rails, torque tube cover to an older plane.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:29 PM
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40631 and I got my fuse kit at the end of 2010 so I doubt it.
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