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Old 04-26-2010, 03:00 PM
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Default Upgrading my 296...which one to get???

I am planning on upgrading my 296 soon and would like opinions...

I am either going with a slightly used 496 or a new 510 or 560.

The used prices for 496's are good but I hate to buy back into a unit that has a flaw in the backup battery system.

Is the 560 worth the difference in price for the 510?

The only feature I think means anything to me is the terain resolution. Is that worth it?

How does the screen and processor speed compare between the 496 and Aera? Sunlight readability and clarity??
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:52 AM
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Default Hi Brian...

FWIW, I have one in the Air Tractor and the -10, with wx...you couldn't pry them......daylight readability is no problem...had one in the -6 for several years.

The 496 contains the entire AOPA airport directory, plus local hospitals, restaurants, rent-a-car agencies and has a much faster processor. I've never had any backup battery problems with either one....really one of my prized possessions,

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Old 04-27-2010, 06:09 AM
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Default How do you intend to use it?

Brian:
Haven't tried an Aera yet, but one feature I like about the x96 is the rocker pad. In IMC and turbulence, my fingers are around the side of the unit and I use my thumb to operate the pad. Not sure if a touch screen would introduce entry errors under those flight conditions. BTW, my GPS is on a bracket attached to the bottom edge of the IP. Kind of looks like this.
http://www.advanced-flight-systems.c...RogerPanel.jpg
With a panel mount, I'd be giving up too much real estate and would not be able to get my hand around the unit.
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:41 AM
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I went to the Garmin seminar on the 696 at Sun n Fun and decided to stay with my 496. The price/size/feature combination of the 496 is hard to beat particularly at the used prices I am seeing.
No battery issues in over 3 years of use. (Knocking on simulated wood).
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:49 AM
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The battery issue I am refering to is the backup battery that will die if you do not use the unit often. Once it dies, the unit can't keep time and it has a hard time locking on to sats until you change the battery.

Buying a used one would be a c r a p shoot on what condition this battery would be in. I have changed the one in my 296. It is a cheap replacement but the operation is major since you have to almost tear the thing completely apart to get to the battery.
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:49 AM
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I went to the Garmin seminar on the 696 at Sun n Fun and decided to stay with my 496. The price/size/feature combination of the 496 is hard to beat particularly at the used prices I am seeing.
No battery issues in over 3 years of use. (Knocking on simulated wood).
Since you mentioned the 696, I wouldn't go back to the previous 496 or 296 I owned. I just much prefer the larger screen. But they are kind of pricey.

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Old 04-27-2010, 07:10 AM
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I have used both a 496 and an Aera 560 see>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post#6
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...era#post399871 I REALLLY!!!!! liked it.

If you are not interested in the weather on your portable I see no real benefit of the 560 over the 510 and no operational benefit of the 510 over a 496.

If you are used to the 296 the 496 will be easier for you to adapt to.

The aera series has great sunlight readability and a good refresh rate. The worries of many about the touch screen, in my opinion, are unfounded.

The aera is small and takes up a lot less space. It is great on the street at the end of a trip the 496 much less so.

If there is a huge savings ($) in going with the 496 that is the route I would go and I would by a Nuvi for the car if that were important to me.
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:49 AM
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The battery issue I am refering to is the backup battery that will die if you do not use the unit often. Once it dies, the unit can't keep time and it has a hard time locking on to sats until you change the battery.

Buying a used one would be a c r a p shoot on what condition this battery would be in. I have changed the one in my 296. It is a cheap replacement but the operation is major since you have to almost tear the thing completely apart to get to the battery.
Brian, I have a 396 that I bought when I thought I was close to needing one. Of course, the very next year they came out with the 496.

Since the 396 sat unused for a long time -- literally years -- the battery went kaput. When I finally fired up the panel and was getting close to flying, it wouldn't lock onto satellites or do much of anything else using the plane's power. As I recall, that was just because after a long time without use, it needs to sit outside for awhile (15 minutes or so) to fully acquire the satellite signals. That's how it was explained to me.

I bought a new battery on eBay and replacing it was a snap -- just open the cover and pop it in. No big deal.

Brian, if size is an issue, I wouldn't hesitate to get a 496. In fact, I'm close to buying one and moving my 396 to the rear seat or sell it. They're both great units.
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Old 04-27-2010, 09:15 AM
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Default Not that battery, Don...

...there's a soldered-in battery inside that you can only access by opening the unit and doing some disassembly. IIRC, it is also part of a memory function.

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Old 04-27-2010, 09:39 AM
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...there's a soldered-in battery inside that you can only access by opening the unit and doing some disassembly. IIRC, it is also part of a memory function.

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Oh. Sorry. Couldn't imagine why Garmin would make it so difficult to replace the battery on a 296 ...
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