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04-19-2010, 07:47 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TN
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Oil cooler leak?
Hello,
Been flying my 9A for almost 50 hours now, removed the cowl today to trouble shoot a tricky CHT probe, discovered a fine mist of oil right behind the oil cooler on the firewall. Also a few drops of oil on the bottom of the oil cooler. Wiped them down, checked the fittings (all were secure, and no oil near the fittings), and ran the engine. Same thing, a drop or two on the bottom of the cooler. It's a very small leak, as my oil level hasn't dropped significantly in a number of hours.
It seems to be a leak somewhere in the fins, and I guess air flow through the cooler causes it to spray back on the firewall.
Is it possible to develop a leak in such a small number of hours, or is it likely I got a lemon cooler from Van's? If I decide to replace the cooler, what are my options to have the same exact footprint and mounting hardware?
Also, anyone see any problem with continuing to fly until my next oil change where I can replace the cooler?
Thanks in advance.
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04-19-2010, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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That's exactly how they start. Sometimes it's hard to tell it's the cooler. The mist goes everywhere. Sound like faulty brazing really. I wouldn't fly it. Suppose it opens up?
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04-19-2010, 09:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregmarlow
Is it possible to develop a leak in such a small number of hours, or is it likely I got a lemon cooler from Van's? If I decide to replace the cooler, what are my options to have the same exact footprint and mounting hardware?
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Vans el cheapo oil coolers are all vacuum brazed. That's why they're so cheap. You might like to consider replacing your cooler with a quality Stewart Warner which will be fully welded and therefore more reliable.
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Originally Posted by Gregmarlow
Also, anyone see any problem with continuing to fly until my next oil change where I can replace the cooler?
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Problem....you mean apart from the minor leak in the cooler suddenly becoming a major leak resulting in a rapid and complete loss of engine oil during flight.
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04-20-2010, 05:26 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
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Yep, time to park it...
...years ago, we had major problems with Continental IO-520's shaking oil coolers apart....I went through several in one season! That was until they remote mounted them and fed by oil lines.
It can let go and ruin your day, IMO....order a good Stewart and rest easy,
Best,
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04-20-2010, 06:33 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TN
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Same footprint?
Does anyone know if the SW 8406R has the exact same footprint as the Vans cooler? Same mount bolt pattern??
Thanks,
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RV-9A Flying - sold
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04-20-2010, 06:39 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
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It does.. they're interchangeable..
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04-20-2010, 06:39 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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Greg,
Don't fly with a leaking cooler.....
Maybe you got a lemon... Van's cooler is not a Stewart but there are many RV's out there flying with em for a long long time....
Man you smoked your Phase I !!!!!!!
Last edited by Brantel : 04-20-2010 at 06:49 AM.
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04-20-2010, 06:50 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TN
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not going to fly...
Points well taken. Plane is grounded until I get a new cooler on there. Trying to figure out if I can get a new one by tomorrow AM so I can fly to work tomorrow afternoon... $70 overnight from Spruce.... or a 5.5 hour drive?
Anyone think Van's would step up and throw me a new cooler? Only 3 months and 50 hours on this one. Or is it even worth it to bother, considering the quality issue?
Thanks,
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RV-9A Flying - sold
4 pl Bearhawk - flying ("sold" to the insurance company)
RV-14A - finishing up
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04-20-2010, 06:52 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Stuart, FL /Hartford, CT/Virgin Gorda,BVI
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[quote=Gregmarlow;425420]Hello,
Also, anyone see any problem with continuing to fly until my next oil change where I can replace the cooler?
cant believe someone would consider flying with a leaking plane!!!!!!!!!!
you can have it fixed in 2 days. 
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04-20-2010, 06:52 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Marion IA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Radomir
It does.. they're interchangeable..
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How does the cooling compare between the SW 8406R and the Van's (Niagara?) oil cooler?
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