My quest for a paperless IFR cockpit....

[pierre smith]

....made me look at just about all the choices at Sun 'n Fun yesterday.

I like the Anywheremap offering, although the $1700 was a big bite. I've searched the archives as well but no joy.

Who has some realtime IFR experience with a screen and no paper? What product gives the best bang for the buck? I don't need anything like sectionals but approach plates and low-altitude charts. After filing to Spruce Creek, the paper was just a pain...

Thanks,

[gereed75]

I posted a similar request a couple of weeks ago. I would be really interested to hear about any experience with the Anywhere map Duo. It is relatively expensive but when you factor in GPS moving map, a second GPS source, geo referenced approaches and taxi moving maps, and relatively inexpensive approach and chart updates - it looks pretty good.

Any input out there??

I'm envious of those at SnF!!

[flyinlee]

Doesn't the IFLY 700 do that? (Adventure Pilot) I thought that was offered now.

[wjnmd]

I have a Garmin 696 with approach plates loaded. I spoke with Lucas at the Trutrak booth yesterday and he indicated that would be adequate. I hope real IFR types will weigh in here. Of course, the 696 is currently going for $2999

Bill Near

[slyfox]

I guess the next question is how much to put the plates in the 696. I have the unit and love it, so the extra to load em is the question now.

Another thought I had was to buy the iPad and load them into that. I have heard people concerned with the sun washing out the ipad, well you are IFR arn't you, were is the sun on that one.

[bkthomps]

you are referring to IMC, you can be on an IFR flight in VFR conditions

[Ironflight]

Pierre,

If you are already flying with a 496 in order to get Wx, then the 696 is essentially a $1000 upgrade to get full paperless approach plates, SID's, STAR's, etc. Of all the ways I've looked at to get electronic charts, the 696 is my current favorite (remember that things are changing all the time, and something better may be just down the road that we don't know about....). The screen is bright and readable, the data is easy to see - and in an -8, the is just no way to carry all the charts and manage the cockpit if you're doing long cross-countries and trying to keep paper.

Yup - it costs money to keep the charts up to date, but that's the price of admission to the IFR system. Paper will cost you $600/year (in round figures) for the whole country, no matter who you go with. Garmin subscriptions is a few hundred more - not that big of a delta. (Too many people see the price of electronic charts and decry the cost, but you have to look at the DELTA above paper charts, not the total - it's not unreasonable that way....)

Paul

[pierre smith]

Originally Posted by Ironflight

Pierre,

If you are already flying with a 496 in order to get Wx, then the 696 is essentially a $1000 upgrade to get full paperless approach plates, SID's, STAR's, etc.

Paul

Thanks Paul....I suppose the $1000 ref is if I sell my 496 and apply that to a 696?.

There's a six inch space between the seats in a -10 and it looks like it would fit there, inclined to view. I already have 2 GPS's so it looks like the Anywhere map would be considerably less expensive.

Thanks,

[videobobk]

Originally Posted by flyinlee

Doesn't the IFLY 700 do that? (Adventure Pilot) I thought that was offered now.

Yes, it does. At $89.95/yr for upgrades (including sectionals.) Check it out while you are at S&F. Plates, etc are very readable in direct sunlight, sectionals marginal. $500 to purchase and is an easy-to-use GPS.

Bob Kelly

[Ironflight]

Originally Posted by pierre smith

Thanks Paul....I suppose the $1000 ref is if I sell my 496 and apply that to a 696?.

Yes, of course - you'd have to sell the 496 to make up the difference - or put it in another airplane....