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03-05-2010, 11:45 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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Please comment to FAA
I am lucky enough to live in an airpark, and I know many of you out there in VAF land do so also. And, I know many of you are planning on moving to an airpark in the future.
Vans Homecoming is held at an airpark even.
O.K., guess that proves that this is RV related
The ongoing battle with the FAA over the airpark issue (through the fence) needs your support.
It sounds like there is going to be legislation introduced to stop the FAA action, but that is never a sure bet, or a quick process.
Please comment on the issue of "through the fence" operations at this site.
http://www.regulations.gov/search/Re...00006480a3d8af
For some stupid reason, known only to the FAA, if indeed it is even known at all, one of the big concerns expressed is that airparks are "incompatible" with airports    Issues cited include noise complaints. Yet a Freedom of Information Act query to the FAA failed to show even one noise complaint from a resident of an airpark.
For those who have missed it in the past, here is a link to an organization that is working to protect our ability to live in our chosen locations.
http://www.throughthefence.org/
Thank you all very much.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
Last edited by Mike S : 03-05-2010 at 09:23 PM.
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03-05-2010, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 387
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Objections Sent
Thanks, Mike, for your call to action.
I objected to the FAA's proposed action via the link you provided.
Best Regards,
Bill Palmer 
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03-05-2010, 01:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Huskerland, USA
Posts: 5,862
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Done!
I also sent an e-mail to my Senators & House members.
Mike, you have been the VAF garbage collector long enough, you need a promotion to VAF Sanitation Engineer. 
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RV-10 : In the hangar
RV-12 : Built and sold
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03-05-2010, 08:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: santa barbara, CA
Posts: 1,681
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S
For some stupid reason, known only to the FAA, if indeed it is even known at all, one of the big concerns expressed is that airparks are "incomparable" with airports    Issues cited include noise complaints.
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Did you mean to say INCOMPATIBLE with airports? If not, I guess I really dont understand the issue.
regards
erich
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03-05-2010, 09:22 PM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erich weaver
Did you mean to say INCOMPATIBLE with airports? If not, I guess I really dont understand the issue.
regards
erich
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Yep, sure did. 
Got it fixed now.
Hazard of spell checkers.....and not paying attention.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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03-05-2010, 10:48 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Edgewood, NM
Posts: 122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S
Issues cited include noise complaints. Yet a Freedom of Information Act query to the FAA failed to show even one noise complaint from a resident of an airpark.
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I live in an airpark having 99 residential lots and all roads are taxiways. About a third of the lots have homes. There are actually two home owners who don't want to have anything to do with planes.  One of them actually called police to report that an airplane went past her house!
Unbelievable!
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Mike Davisson
Edgewood, NM
RV-14A #140805
VS complete, Rudder in progress
2020 =VAF= donor
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03-06-2010, 12:12 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Saxapahaw, NC
Posts: 74
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I am confused.
Does this new FAA Compliance Manual apply to totally private airparks with private runways, or just to public airports that allow adjacent residential areas to have access to the airport?
Joe Hutchison
Duchy Airpark (5NC5)
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03-06-2010, 07:32 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Arlington, WA
Posts: 799
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Here's your sign
Quote:
Originally Posted by md9680
I live in an airpark having 99 residential lots and all roads are taxiways. About a third of the lots have homes. There are actually two home owners who don't want to have anything to do with planes.  One of them actually called police to report that an airplane went past her house!
Unbelievable!
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Wow! Jeff Foxworthy said it right... "Here's your sign!" Anyone who moves into a magnet community (airpark, equestrian, 55+, etc) and then complain because of the magnet community activities needs a big sign placed in thier front yard!
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RV-7 N957RV (First Flight on Dec 18, 2009 )
RV-14 N144P (Empennage complete, wings almost complete, fuselage almost complete)
#866 on the Van's RV-7 hobbs
#6563 on Van's generic hobbs
Arlington, WA
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03-06-2010, 08:51 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DakotaHawk
Wow! Jeff Foxworthy said it right... "Here's your sign!" Anyone who moves into a magnet community (airpark, equestrian, 55+, etc) and then complain because of the magnet community activities needs a big sign placed in thier front yard!
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Bill Engval. 
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03-06-2010, 09:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Rockwall, TX
Posts: 103
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This does NOT apply to private airparks. It only applies to airports which have received FAA funding for projects. As an airport manager, I've been working to create an airpark development but with this update to the manual, the FAA guys have said "no way". Hopefully we can get them to ease up on this....but I'm not holding my breath. Please follow the link above and tell them what you think.
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AOPA Regional Manager - Central Southwest
RV-4 bought it, sold it, bought it back, storm totaled it 
ATP, CFII
Last edited by RVFlyer : 03-06-2010 at 09:22 AM.
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