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Old 02-02-2006, 03:29 PM
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Kudos, Bill.

You not only did the right thing, but I think you added back a huge helping of Public Relations that will pay you back many times over in the future.

In case some of you think you might miss being able to save the panel, just hit the "PrintScreen" key and then a Ctrl-V into a new drawing within Photoshop or other similar program.
Then cut just the panel out of the center of the image, paste that into it's own new file, and save it, print it, or email it to the guys at the RV Killers forum on Yahoo.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV_Killers/
They'd love to see what you're up to with your RV.
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Old 02-02-2006, 04:07 PM
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i just "redid" my panel again, and i REALLY like the new layout and free functionality. i was able to save my panel in photoshop using the clipboard. the only bad part is like bill said, it won't save your previous work. so, it has to be redone each time you go to the site, but that's livable for me! i certainly think the services offered under a subscription will be well worth it when i get closer to the panel being a reality. nice work.
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Old 02-02-2006, 10:55 PM
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Default expand to see better?

I just tried it as well for the first time Bill. Nice tool. I have to go and read the directions to see if in demo mode you can expand the view so that you can see things better as well as get a cost estimate of the entire panel cost.

Like many of the guys above, I would definitely take advantage of the panel layout to CAD service as well as the cutting service. I would also be happy to pay a usage fee when I get serious about panel planning. That's a little while in the future considering I am still a month from starting my wings.

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Old 02-03-2006, 09:41 AM
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Thumbs up Listening to your customers? In *this* day and age?!?

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Originally Posted by bvondane
Basically you have all the same functions you had in the old version except for the last panel you worked on will not be saved...
Bill, you just earned yourself a customer. I was pretty disappointed to see how much functionality was gone from the first iteration of the new free version, and frankly my first reaction was to delete your site from my bookmarks.

Now that you've taken this new approach, your bookmark is back and I guarantee you I and a lot of other guys who are at the "playing around with panel designs" stage will definitely turn into paying customers when we reach the "time to make the panel" stage. Many thanks!

Oh, and btw, for me at least, saving or not saving the last panel is really no biggie. It's like I said, the attraction for me right now is playing around with different options and combinations - even on the old site, I was constantly going back to a clean slate anyway, so losing this particular functionality really doesn't bother me.
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Old 02-03-2006, 12:14 PM
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So, do you still have to register to use the free sample version?
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Old 02-03-2006, 12:37 PM
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yes, but it's very quick and easy. name, email, username and password is about it. he doesn't ask for payment info (for future featured use) to register.
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:51 PM
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Default Alternate to Epanel Builder

You may want to try xpanelsoftware www.xpanelsoftware.com It is similar to Epanel builder. It has a free web based program and a software version that is in Beta testing. You can test the full software version until April 1.

I am not affiliated with xpanelsoftware, just passing along an alternate

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Old 02-14-2006, 12:50 PM
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Can't get the freebie part up on either IE6 or Mozilla Firefox. Definitely won't subscribe for $$$ if the free stuff won't run. When I am done fantasizing and its time to plunk money down for instruments and avionics and get a panel cut out I'll have to go with a CAD program. Can't you bring back the old epanelbuilder?
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Old 02-14-2006, 12:58 PM
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john,

i wonder if something in your settings isn't allowing it to open. i run mozilla firefox at work and at home, and used epanelbuilder last night, and this morning...
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:13 PM
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I'm using it with my Mac (Powerbook) running OSX 10.4.4 with the latest version of firefox. I registered, and can build my whole panel without paying. The pay stuff will come later . Thanks for Mac support finally .
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