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Old 02-11-2005, 05:07 PM
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Where can you find the serial number for your RV kit? Is it the same as your customer number? order number?
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:22 PM
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Yes, you answered your own question.
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:18 PM
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Where can you find the serial number for your RV kit? Is it the same as your customer number? order number?
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Yes, you answered your own question.
I've got the same question, but I'm confused by Jay's response.

I recently ordered the RV-10 empennage kit. While the kit has not yet been delivered, I just received the hard copy invoice in the mail. It has three numbers on it:

(1) "Invoice: 24136",
(2) "Customer: 40619", and
(3) "Order: 6-20654".

There is no "Serial No." listed on the invoice or the bill of lading, but there is another number on the bill of lading:

"B/L#: VANS09428".

So what is the "Serial Number" that I input into KitLog Pro, or do I not find out until the kit is physically delivered?
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:38 PM
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The "Customer Number" is your Builder Number. The Serial Number you use in registering your finished aircraft can be anything that you want it to be - you are the manufacturer, and you can call it the "Roadster Serial #1" if you so desire. Practically speaking I bet that a large number of folks just use the Van's Builder # - I did...I guess that just shows a lack of originality....

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Old 08-11-2006, 09:50 PM
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The "Customer Number" is your Builder Number. The Serial Number you use in registering your finished aircraft can be anything that you want it to be - you are the manufacturer, and you can call it the "Roadster Serial #1" if you so desire. Practically speaking I bet that a large number of folks just use the Van's Builder # - I did...I guess that just shows a lack of originality....
Thanks, Paul. That helps a bit.

FWIW, KitLog Pro has four fields that I need to fill in under the "Kit" heading:

(1) Manufacturer (presumably "Van's Aircraft, Inc.", since that appears to be what automatically populated the www.vansaircraft.com website URL on the MyKitLog project page listed below in my signature),

(2) Model (presumably "RV-10"),

(3) Serial Number (???), and

(4) Registration Number (Presumably the FAA-assigned N-number).

So apparently all I need to decide on is the Serial Number.

If Van's doesn't assign an official "Serial Number" to each kit, then I can choose whatever I want (e.g., my customer number "40619" or "Roadster 0001")?
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:05 PM
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As you are the manufacturer you would use your name. If you are Bob Smith the aircraft manufacturer would be "Smith-Vans RV10" At least this is the way I was told.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:19 PM
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As you are the manufacturer you would use your name. If you are Bob Smith the aircraft manufacturer would be "Smith-Vans RV10" At least this is the way I was told.
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Well, I tried making some changes. I changed "Manufacturer:" to "Roadster Aircraft" and "Model:" to "Van's RV-10". Then I uploaded the data. When I re-visited the webpage, the "Aircraft:" line had changed to "Roadster Aircraft - Van's RV-10", and the entire "Manufacturer:" line with the URL to the Van's Aircraft website had disappeared.

I think since this is all under listed the "Kit" section of the User Profile, the "Manufacturer" refers to the maker of the kit parts (Van's), not the builder of the finished plane (Roadster).
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:04 AM
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"Manufacturer" is YOUR NAME. ie. "Smith, John". Model can be whatever you want..."RV-10"...or "Vans RV-10". My model is "A&M-6" (the 6th airplane built by Ann & Mel). The serial number can be whatever you want.
But to repeat..manufacturer must be "YOUR NAME". When you register the airplane with FAA, your name must be listed as manufacturer and all other paperwork MUST match the registration exactly.
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:14 AM
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"Manufacturer" is YOUR NAME. ie. "Smith, John". Model can be whatever you want..."RV-10"...or "Vans RV-10". My model is "A&M-6" (the 6th airplane built by Ann & Mel). The serial number can be whatever you want.
But to repeat..manufacturer must be "YOUR NAME". When you register the airplane with FAA, your name must be listed as manufacturer and all other paperwork MUST match the registration exactly.
Mel, please re-read my last post. I'm referring to the "Kit" input fields on KitLog Pro, not the aircraft input fields on the FAA registration process.

The "Manufacturer" field of the Profile on KitLog Pro is under the "Kit" sub-section, referring to the kit manufacturer, not the manufacturer of the finished plane listed on the official FAA registration process. There is another place on the profile for "Builder" name.

Here's an example of what I'm referring to...

http://www.mykitlog.com/eddieseve/

I hope that clarifies things.

Edit: I tried posting a screenshot of the Kit portion of the profile window, but I keep getting an error when I attempt to upload, even though the filesize is just 8KB and it's a jpg file.
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:27 AM
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That's fine. That is a "kit-log" thing. The "kit manufacturer" is not required anywhere as far as FAA is concerned. I just wanted to make sure that you understood that the aircraft manufacturer is YOU. When the "kit manufacturer" is listed on the registration, it's a real pain to get it straightened out. And, believe me, it happens all too often.
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