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01-12-2010, 10:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Vans Engine Primer Solenoid?
So, I woke up this moring and realized that when I carefully mounted my primer solenoid to my carefully crafted mounting bracket bolted to my firewall, I did not consider which port was in and which was out. So, I looked at the limited documentation and there is no indication. How do I determine which is the input port and which is the output? They say there is no such thing as a dumb question, but sometimes I wonder.
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01-12-2010, 10:15 PM
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there are no dumb questions. Every time I use one of these I still have to go look it up. Port 2 is in, and port 1 is out.
It's usually detailed in the Spruce catalog. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...lsolprimer.php
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01-12-2010, 10:34 PM
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Thank you - One additional ?
I mounted it the opposite from what I intended with port 2 on the opposite side of the solenoid from the gascolater. The solenoid is mounted to the left of the gascolater as you face forward face of the firewall. I think I will leave it that way and just make a longer run of copper tubing from the gascolater to the solenoid than I would have otherwise.
One additional question, it appears to be an valve rather than a pump. Does that mean that to use it one runs the electric boost pump for pressure and then triggers the solenoid to open the valve to prime?
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01-13-2010, 12:33 AM
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yes you are correct
the solenoid is downstream of the electric pump and you switch on the pump then trigger the primer solenoid
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01-13-2010, 07:31 AM
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it probably does not matter
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It absolutely does matter. It is a spindle valve. The side with 2 openings (look in the bore) allows fuel pressure to be applied to the top of the spindle to help keep it closed. The side with one opening (out) if hooked up as the inlet will let the fuel pressure lift the spindle. Depending on the pressure your boost pump generates it can blow through the solenoid if mounted in reverse. Not a good thing if you become dependent on the electric pump. Do not ask me how I know.
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It's usually detailed in the Spruce catalog
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I just installed a new one last week and the manufacturer has finally put the correct hookup instructions in the box with the valve.
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01-13-2010, 07:39 AM
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primer instructions?
Milt - any chance you could post (or email) a PDF of the improved instructions?
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01-13-2010, 08:23 AM
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Been there, done that
The following link explains it:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...rimer+solenoid
I went through this and Milt had the right answer back then, too!  2 is "in", 1 is "out". That's how I set mine up, and it works well.
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01-13-2010, 08:33 AM
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Thanks for this posting. I just realized mine is installed backwards! Who would have thought "1" is out and "2" is in?
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01-13-2010, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Not a "dumb question" after all
Just proves there is no such thing as a dumb question re: my initial post. This proved to be an interesting thread.
Thank all for your input.
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01-13-2010, 12:52 PM
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Thats great...I went back and looked at the pic of mine and saw that I have it installed with 1 as in.
I did not have any issues when I test ran the engine even with the boost pump on. I ran it just like the pic below. No lines connected yet.
Mine is hard to turn around since I have to pull the gascollator off to do it and that is a royal pain in the rear! I have had to do that a couple times already and I said the last time that I hope that is the last time I have to do that!!!

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