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Old 01-04-2010, 05:29 PM
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Question Trim servo wiring

I'm in the process of reading AeroElectric Connection, but am also wanting to run some wires to the tail so I can rivet the aft top skin, so...

Can anyone tell me if they used 22 AWG for their Ray Allen elevator trim servo to stick run? A search--not very well worded I guess--turned up very little. I also saw one thread about a 5 wire Ray Allen bundle, but would like to avoid an order for now. Haven't thought about connections yet, but need to get the wire in. Is this an appropriate gauge for the current/distance?

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Old 01-04-2010, 05:41 PM
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I used 22 awg for the Ray Allen elevator and aileron trim servos in my -10.

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Old 01-04-2010, 06:07 PM
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Call Stein....buy the wire bundle.

Other places to buy it but I make these purchases from Stein whenever possible.....he needs the income....right Stein ??
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:13 PM
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Default 22 is fine

Ray Allen web site says you can use wire as small as 26 gauge, so 22 gauge will be no problem.

http://www.rayallencompany.com/RACin...hor-What-49575

Just ran mine to the back over the holidays.
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:13 PM
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I used the Ray Allen 5 wire bundle. It is 26AWG. Total pain to work with. I would definately go with Stein's bundle. I got his for the AP and it is top notch. You can run your own bundle. It needs to be twisted.
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:28 PM
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We too really dislike the AWG 26 wire, so we stock the 5 conductor shielded wire in AWG24 instead...still small but you can actually work with it and still use normal tools/pins/connectors for it. It's not super cheap wire, but it's easy to work with.

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Old 01-05-2010, 07:38 PM
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Default EMC Problems

Just a heads up. Finished the wiring with Stein's 5 wire bundle and had an EMC problem on final check out. When ICOM was keyed indicator went dim and "jumped around" (I love technical terms). Fought it for nearly a week and talked to RA on several occasions. It is a RA problem that has some reports and no doubt it was EMI, I can tell you via E-mail if interested. Bottom line, shield the aft run with Steins 2 and a 3 wire shielded bundle and save the time. 5 wire shielded is not available from Stein or others in small lots. Wish it was. Don
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:39 PM
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Just a heads up. Finished the wiring with Stein's 5 wire bundle and had an EMC problem on final check out. When ICOM was keyed indicator went dim and "jumped around" (I love technical terms). Fought it for nearly a week and talked to RA on several occasions. It is a RA problem that has some reports and no doubt it was EMI, I can tell you via E-mail if interested. Bottom line, shield the aft run with Steins 2 and a 3 wire shielded bundle and save the time. 5 wire shielded is not available from Stein or others in small lots. Wish it was. Don
Ummm....we do sell 5 wire shielded AWG24 by the foot...you can order a minumum of 1 foot, up to the 10,000 feet on the spool we buy it on (and any length in between). It's part number SA-445.

Just an FYI if you missed it.

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Old 01-06-2010, 07:02 AM
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Default Another Question

Since I've just run this wire through the tunnel to the rear, does this also affect different indicators? In other words, is the indicator the problem or the wiring. I'm using an EMS D-120 for indication and would rather "fix" it now than later, if needed.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:49 AM
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Since I've just run this wire through the tunnel to the rear, does this also affect different indicators? In other words, is the indicator the problem or the wiring. I'm using an EMS D-120 for indication and would rather "fix" it now than later, if needed.
I have most often found that if (when?) you get flashing Ray Allen indicators when you transmit, this is more an indication that you have an antenna wire shielding issue somewhere that needs to be fixed. This is very common when people fire up their systems under construction for the first time, and start finding the places where connections aren't quite as good as they could be, or an unshielded antenna in the floor. My experience has been that most of the common devices used in our RV's live pretty well with the other devices when everything is installed properly.

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