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11-24-2009, 09:11 AM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,301
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Originally Posted by Brantel
Man, competitors helping each other out...What a forum!
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Is he helping out or sabatoging???????
Just kidding, just kidding..........
<feeling mischievous>
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11-24-2009, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
Posts: 1,499
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Originally Posted by avi8tor50
Yes, yes the new toy is all very cool but...
What about those of us who have invested and built our panels around the
D100 and EMS D10?
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We have no plans to stop selling any of our current products, much less discontinue support for them. They still fill a very large need in experimental and LSA markets.
Heck, we still support the D10, which we last sold in 2004 (although parts are hard to find and we often have to upgrade to a D10A)
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11-24-2009, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
Posts: 1,499
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Originally Posted by Shockwave
Is the Skyview capable of handling aerobatics or inverted flight?
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Absolutely. All of our AHRS units are completely solid state, work fine at all angles, and are not damaged by any maneuvers. To be fair, this is true of all of the true attitude EFIS units (GRT, AFS, MGL) that I know of.
The main thing you run into doing aerobatics is roll rate limitations. We can handle up to 150 deg/sec and keep track of the airplane. Beyond that, we will have some error, but we clearly annunciate this. After the aircraft is stabilized, we can recover within a few seconds. All AHRS units have this limitation at some roll rate.
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11-24-2009, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
Posts: 1,499
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Originally Posted by bhassel
Will the SkyView end up in the 12?
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This is something that only Van's can answer, but it does appear they are looking into it.
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11-25-2009, 12:59 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Somerset West
Posts: 1,033
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Is he helping out or sabatoging???????
Just kidding, just kidding..........
<feeling mischievous>
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Well, if this is sabotaging - then I better head back to cloak and dagger school because I sure flunked that one...
Anyway, I don't count Dynon as a competitor but as fellow EFIS designers. Our respective products are very different in concept and so they don't directly compete with each other. You may be surprised but I have in the past many times recommended a Dynon (or GRT) product to a prospective customer as it would suit him better for what he wants to do. In fact, the last one was just yesterday !
Is that wrong ?
Rainier
CEO MGL Avionics
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11-25-2009, 04:43 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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No Rainier....
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Originally Posted by Rainier Lamers
Well, if this is sabotaging - then I better head back to cloak and dagger school because I sure flunked that one...
Is that wrong ?
Rainier
CEO MGL Avionics
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....it's called integrity.
The best,
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Pierre Smith
RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
Air Tractor 402 PT-6-20 Sold
EAA Flight Advisor/CFI/Tech Counselor
Louisville, Ga
It's never skill or craftsmanship that completes airplanes, it's the will to do so,
Patrick Kenny, EAA 275132
Dues gladly paid!
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11-25-2009, 08:44 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 305
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Rainier,
your comment
"Our respective products are very different in concept and so they don't directly compete with each other. You may be surprised but I have in the past many times recommended a Dynon (or GRT) product to a prospective customer as it would suit him better for what he wants to do"
prompts the obvious question from someone (me) who is getting very close to choosing an EFIS/autopilot. I have read all that I can, determined my "mission", visited vendor booths at Oshkosh, looked at the screens, watched the products evolve, yet with all of that remain unable to say with any confidence how your product, or Dynon, (or GRT or TruTrak for that matter) differ in concept.
I would have thought that they did compete!
So, from someone who designs these things and knows, what market/user requirements is your product designed for? What criteria (other than price that we can all judge) do you suggest prospective purchasers looking at these things take into account? What is the difference in concept between yours and the others? I am sure the best system for a user may be any one of the vendor offerings depending on mission and priorities (IFR or VFR, sole system, main system or backup, autopilot function, cost, ...) so it is not a question of criticism of any of them.
In short, I have determined my "mission", but am at a loss to know how to apply that to what is out there.
Dynon, others have any comments?
Thanks,
Bill Brooks
Ottawa, Canada
RV-6A finishing kit
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11-25-2009, 09:42 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 325
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Originally Posted by C-GRVT
Rainier,
your comment
"In short, I have determined my "mission", but am at a loss to know how to apply that to what is out there.
Dynon, others have any comments?
Thanks,
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Bill,
check out this thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ighlight=dynon
Ironflight (aka Paul Dye) has a nice write up in here about applying your mission objectives to selecting an EFIS. There are also a lot of opinions (mine included) about how the different systems are aimed at different markets.
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Flying a Glasair I FT
Planning to build an RV...someday
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11-25-2009, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 40
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Can intersections, vor's, and airports be displayed on the map screen? 
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11-25-2009, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
Posts: 1,499
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Not today. We do not have a full moving map yet. We will be working on that right away after we start shipping next week.
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