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Old 11-20-2009, 08:31 AM
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Default When do I need to electroeducate myself?

At what point in the build do I need to get up-to-speed on electrical? I don't want to get too far ahead of myself and lose sight of the task at hand. I plan on getting Bob Nuckolls book and immersing myself in all things electrical when the time comes but when is that time?

It's not a $ thing; it's just more fun to learn everything I can about a new phase when it arises. Plus, it keeps me from cluttering up my brain with things I don't need at the moment. I'm waiting for wings. I don't want to go back and redo electrical connections and such because I used the wrong technique or tool.

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Old 11-20-2009, 08:39 AM
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Default Avionics resource

There is a good training CD available from 'Avionics Hangar.' The EAA website has some good video on basics .
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:52 AM
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Default It's never too early...

There are a number of RV's with strobes and VOR antennas in the top of the vertical stab. That requires planning from the get go.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:56 AM
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I would get Bob's book in order to get a feel for aircraft electrics. I would also study the sample schematics which came with your preview plans. More importantly though, I would decide on my airframe lighting and electrical needs. Things such as strobes, nav lights, pitot heat, landing and taxi lights, etc..should be decided upon so you have an idea of conduit and wiring needs as you build your wings.
The panel electronics, although you are probably already thinking about them, can wait until you get further along.
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:03 AM
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You need to install wires before you close your wings up.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:37 PM
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Default the basics

well, ya got yer AC and ya got yer DC.........

ya got yer NEGATIVE and ya got yer POSITIVE.......

Easy, huh

No, really, its not difficult at all. Just ask questions as you go.

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Old 01-05-2011, 11:10 AM
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can anyone recommend books on this?

what about this?

http://www.amazon.com/Aircraft-Wirin...4250592&sr=8-2
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:37 PM
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Larry, I took the SportAir electrical class (the "hands on" time is invaluable--books cant teach that) and also have Bob's book. Both are excellent and recommended. I took the class in Sept and I am now about halfway through my wings...and I kind of feel I took it too early. I did use my new wiring/soldering skills on the capacitance plates in the fuel tanks (not too complicated)...and there is some very simple wiring in the wings that is still ahead of me. But at this point I really havent used what I learned. I already feel like I need to go back and review when real wiring emerges on the project. If I did it again, I would wait until longer into the project so the knowledge might be fresher. YMMV...
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Old 01-05-2011, 01:19 PM
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Default electroeducate?

When 9 or 10 I accidently touch the prongs of a plug while pushing it into a wall socket. I was electroeducated!

Seriously, all good advise has been given. Read and understand Bob Nuckolls book and you will be a real smart guy. But if you keep it simple, Van's electrical kit is a good place to start. It will take care of the basic airframe stuff--alternator, battery, starter, voltage regulation, lights, fuel pump, flaps, etc. Someone was right when they told me it is just one wire at a time. For the radio gear, Steinair can provide a custom harness and wiring diagram that make even that stuff simple. My biggest challenges were related to running wires and pitot/airspeed tubing from one place to another. You need to determine how your panel is going to be equipped before closing things up. For example, those two little holes Van's has you drill in the center section for wiring aren't sufficient especially if the manual trim is occupying one of them.
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Old 01-05-2011, 01:36 PM
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Vertical Power... all the electrical education you'll ever need!!!
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