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Old 11-16-2009, 09:37 AM
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Default Engine drops a cylinder. Head Scratcher. AFP?

Need ideas for troublshooting.
IO-540, AFP.

Symptom,
Below 1500 RPM, #2 cylinder drops cold. Misses, no EGT, CHT drops.
~1500rpm, cylinder comes back alive, but is running ~100degF egt hotter than normal/others. Leaning it shows the cylinder continues to lean and peaks early indicating cylinder is lean. Mag checks good.

Bring RPM up higher ~2000rpm and the cylinder functions normally. EGT in line with others. Mag checks function as expected.

Actions so far.
1. Compression check hot and cold GOOD. 78/90
2. Swap injectors, swap injector lines around. Problem stays with the one cylinder. (I though for sure plugged injector.
3. Rockers snug, nothing unusual under rocker cover.
4. Oil change, filter clean.
5. Plugs look good.
6. Intake tube tight. No sign of leaks at cylinder or sump
7. Cylinder inspection superficial scan all around it looks good.

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Old 11-16-2009, 09:44 AM
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Default Inspect the Distribution Spider

My buddy had a similar symptom but it moved around from time to time to different cylinders. After hours of agonizing troubleshooting he found a few small pieces of material floating around in the Distributor.
Worth a shot.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:08 AM
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Default Fuel Distribution

Check the fuel distribution of the flow divider by doing the bottle check. If you don't know how to do this give me a call.

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Old 11-16-2009, 10:40 AM
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Need ideas for troublshooting.
IO-540, AFP.

Symptom,
Below 1500 RPM, #2 cylinder drops cold. Misses, no EGT, CHT drops.
~1500rpm, cylinder comes back alive, but is running ~100degF egt hotter than normal/others. Leaning it shows the cylinder continues to lean and peaks early indicating cylinder is lean. Mag checks good.

Bring RPM up higher ~2000rpm and the cylinder functions normally. EGT in line with others. Mag checks function as expected.

Actions so far.
1. Compression check hot and cold GOOD. 78/90
2. Swap injectors, swap injector lines around. Problem stays with the one cylinder. (I though for sure plugged injector.
3. Rockers snug, nothing unusual under rocker cover.
4. Oil change, filter clean.
5. Plugs look good.
6. Intake tube tight. No sign of leaks at cylinder or sump
7. Cylinder inspection superficial scan all around it looks good.

Ideas from the brainiacs?
THanks
We saw this exact thing on an angle valve IO360. It was the #3 cylinder. It turned out to be the #2 cylinder intake. The o-ring on the intake tube was letting in air. How this affected the #3 cylinder, who knows. repaired the tube, problem gone.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:41 AM
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Sounds like an induction leak on number two cylinder intake system. Classic intake/ induction leak symptoms! Double check the pipes especially if the lip under the flange is cracked and also that the non used 1/8 pipe plug in the cylinder intake port.
When the suction is high, in that cylinder?s intake system, as it gets as you go to lower RPM and power, something is killing that cylinder. Either you are sucking in outside air or you are getting more fuel then you should have. Maybe a partially restricted FI nozzle vent that allows more fuel at high suction??
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:50 AM
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I also am leaning towards an intake leak. Your right. Classicsymptoms.
Ill check the tube and npt port.

Ill check it and report back.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:56 AM
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Check the fuel distribution of the flow divider by doing the bottle check. If you don't know how to do this give me a call.

Don
I figured that since I hooked up the line to a different port off the flow divider, that would be ruled out.

I do have my test jars though. Easy enough to try.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:13 AM
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For crying out loud Mike, you've got 6 cylinders! Most of us make do with just 4!
No sympathy!

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Old 11-17-2009, 08:27 AM
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Was the intake gasket. Brittle and wore out.
Thanks for the responses guys.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:53 AM
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For crying out loud Mike, you've got 6 cylinders! Most of us make do with just 4!:
That right! make #1 leak and you'll be back with us
easy find, glad to hear
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