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09-30-2009, 01:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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Transition training questions
Hi,
I am a fair bit into my tail wheel endorsement and am slowly beginning to think I am supposed to try to buy a plane instead of build. That leaves me with some experience related questions.
First, is anyone doing transition training within driving distance of NYC? Second, I assume that transition training in (preferably) an RV7 would also qualify me for the tail wheel endorsement?? Lastly, I may someday need to consider purchasing a constant speed propped plane. Can I work that endorsement into my transition/tail wheel training?
I have been trying to figure out how to get all these things done, but maybe I am supposed to be figuring out how to do them all at the same time? Thanks for the education!
Andy
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09-30-2009, 01:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Schaumburg, IL
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Andy,
Your second question "transition training in (preferably) an RV7 would also qualify me for the tail wheel endorsement", the answer is yes, provided the instructor giving the transition training also endorses you for tailwheel. Your 3rd question "constant speed propped plane. Can I work that endorsement into my transition/tail wheel training" The answer is no, I assume you are talking about the "complex" endorsement. That requires 3 things, Controllable pitch propeller, flaps AND retractable landing gear.
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N524AP, RV 9 (tail wheel)
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09-30-2009, 01:46 PM
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Thanks Tony. I thought the same about the complex endorsement but my flight school mislead me into thinking you could get the prop training without the retract.
So I am looking for RV7 transition training and tailwheel endorsement in the northeast (or east at least). Anyone??
Last edited by AndyRV7 : 09-30-2009 at 02:03 PM.
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09-30-2009, 01:52 PM
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The "prop" training, is certainly the most complex part of the complex. So the transition training you do will only make the complex endorsement easier.
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Tony Phillips
N524AP, RV 9 (tail wheel)
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09-30-2009, 02:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tampa, FL
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You can get the CS training
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Originally Posted by AndyRV7
I thought the same about the complex endorsement but my flight school mislead me into thinking you could get the prop training without the retract.
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You can, there's just no seperate endorsement or sign-off for learning to use a CS prop.
Also if you are close to already getting a tailwheel endorsement, go ahead and finish. You don't need a specific RV-7 tailwheel endorsement, although I htink it would be prudent to get transition training in a 7 vs. a 7A. YMMV...
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Last edited by Auburntsts : 09-30-2009 at 02:30 PM.
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09-30-2009, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntsts
You can, there's just no seperate endorsement or sign-off for learning to use a CS prop.
Also if you are close to already getting a tail wheel endorsement, go ahead and finish. You don't need a specific RV-7 tail wheel endorsement, although I think it would be prudent to get transition training in a 7 vs. a 7A. YMMV...
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The transition training is an insurance thing, but I also want the training in model. I just figured I might as well try to start the RV7 time now and since my tail wheel guy is very busy (8 lessons since beginning in February!). I might as well finish up the endorsement in the RV instead of trying to finish in the Cub, and then still have to take 10 hours of RV training as well (which just coincidentally will be tail wheel flying).
I guess another ancillary benefit is I have still not been able to get a ride in an RV. Paying for the training solves that problem too.
Last edited by AndyRV7 : 09-30-2009 at 02:37 PM.
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09-30-2009, 03:58 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Also looking for East coast transition training
I'm also looking for transition training in an RV. I just finished my 6A (after 12 years) and am looking for a CFI with an RV willing to provide transition training. I'm located in VA Beach. My DAR inspection is within the next 2 weeks  Anyone within a couple of states?
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09-30-2009, 04:27 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Tampa, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRV7
Hi,
Second, I assume that transition training in (preferably) an RV7 would also qualify me for the tail wheel endorsement?? Lastly, I may someday need to consider purchasing a constant speed propped plane. Can I work that endorsement into my transition/tail wheel training?
I have been trying to figure out how to get all these things done, but maybe I am supposed to be figuring out how to do them all at the same time? Thanks for the education!
Andy
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Andy, I believe that Jan Bussell (lives in South FL) is the only person that can legally provide a tailwheel endorsement in an expiremental airplane. He has a letter of deviation from his local FSDO that allows him to sign off on your TW endorsement IF you have already initiated TW training (which you have) and are planning to purchase an RV. Jan has both an RV-6 and an RV-6A that he provides transition training in. He did my transition training and TW endoresment and I highly recommend him.
Someone correct me on this if I'm wrong, not that you all needed an invitation to do so 
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Last edited by RBD : 09-30-2009 at 04:29 PM.
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09-30-2009, 05:39 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bennington, Vermont USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRV7
Hi,
I am a fair bit into my tail wheel endorsement and am slowly beginning to think I am supposed to try to buy a plane instead of build. That leaves me with some experience related questions.
First, is anyone doing transition training within driving distance of NYC? Second, I assume that transition training in (preferably) an RV7 would also qualify me for the tail wheel endorsement?? Lastly, I may someday need to consider purchasing a constant speed propped plane. Can I work that endorsement into my transition/tail wheel training?
I have been trying to figure out how to get all these things done, but maybe I am supposed to be figuring out how to do them all at the same time? Thanks for the education!
Andy
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If you are tail wheel training and qualifying on a Piper or Champ type aircraft you should be fine in an RV. The wings of an RV are shorter and closer to the ground and don't want to wag around as much as those high wing, long span designs.
As for C/S it's operation is more procedural or mental than a tail wheel's kinesthetic or seat of the pants needs. If you succeed with the tail wheel the CS should be a piece of cake.
Jim Sharkey
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10-01-2009, 04:17 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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I went with Kent Gorton near Atlanta GA. He teaches in a -6 and is an excellent teacher. His -6 has a fixed-pitch prop, though...
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