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  #81  
Old 09-21-2006, 09:07 AM
prkaye prkaye is offline
 
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Default X-Plane

I actually downloaded the RV-9A model that exists for X-Plane. Unfortunately it was created for an older version of X-Plane and won't open in the current version. When I get around to it, I'm going to try opening the model in the new version of planemaker, and re-exporting it and see if that works.
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:38 AM
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Default Microsoft FlightSim X

Anybody tried X yet?
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:04 AM
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Default One word ...

WOW !!!!!

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Old 11-01-2006, 08:07 AM
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Anybody tried X yet?
Yep. It's a resource hog, big time.

I have a Intel Dual Core 3Ghz, 1GB of RAM, 256mb video card and I can barely make it run with all the graphics settings on 'high'. I have to put the quality settings near the middle to get a respectable frame rate.

Unfortunately it appears that Microsoft has chosen to go the route of eye candy over improving the flight model and functionality. In more populated areas they are using aerial photos to enhance the ground scenery. It's kind of cool to be able to fly over your neighborhood in that thing and see your ACTUAL house.

The G-1000 stuff is pretty well done. I've only flown a G-1000 172 twice so my exposure to the G-1000 is limited, but it appears that MS got most of the functionality right. There are several things missing in FSX (i.e. the detailed engine page, changing map settings, etc), but overall it's fairly well done. BTW: The G-1000 is only available in the FSX Deluxe version.

Now, contradicting what I said about the flight model -- it does appear that MS has tweaked the flight model somewhat. Aerobatics in the Extra 300 was horrible...as it was almost impossible to make that thing spin. It seems more natural now to get it into a spin and do other maneuvers.

As far as the engine sounds: I spoke with one of the MS guys at Oshkosh and he said that they actually went around and recorded the engine noises from authentic airplanes for FSX. The engine sounds do seem to be much better -- particularly the Extra. There is a noticeable difference in sound.

I also like the fact that they've added tow-plane functionality for the gliders. The glider stuff is a very neat learning experience. They have a glider introduction that teaches you about thermals, ridge soaring, etc. The glider in FSX has a variometer which is neat and makes the experience very real. I've only tried the soaring introduction so I'm not sure how well it simulates thermals in other areas.

They've also added flour bombing capability and you can even try to land a Cub on the top of a moving bus a la Oshkosh.

Overall I think it's a decent purchase and is great for cold rainy days.

Almost all of the guys on the MS Flight Simulator team are pilots and fly regularly. It's neat to see what these guys are doing -- although I still think that X-plane is a better all around simulator (so does the FAA...given X-plane's certification for flight training in certain installations).
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:44 AM
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Default Love X-plane

Been with X-plane since the mid-90's. A couple of times I've used it to drive 3d animation software. What I like about it is the customization. When we used it for "Stealth" (apologies all around, but I didn't write the script), we built a VTOL, nearly hypersonic fighter to try to get the performance that the director wanted, and we nearly hit it, most of the time. It didn't turn out to be practical for day-to-day animation work, but it was good R&D and helped visualize a lot of stuff.

I downloaded V 8.5demo and I have the full version on order, primarily because there's a very nice model of an RV-7A on x-plane.org that you can download. I'll be able to crack it open in PlaneMaker and convert it to an RV-7. The Cozy Mk4 has the BMA EFIS/One, which you can stick in the RV, once you learn PlaneMaker a bit. Greg Richter of BMA helped with the EFIS, and it's pretty cool in the Cozy. And having it up on the projector in the living room is way too much fun. This is about all the RV flying I'm going to get for a while, so I'm going to make the best of it.
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:56 AM
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Default FS-X

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Yep. It's a resource hog, big time.
You are definitely right. 2gb corsair xms memory, dual core AMD and two FireGL 512mb PCIe cards and I still get low framerates with the graphics turned all the way up.

It does look nice though
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:44 AM
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Default I wrote a short review on FSX

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Anybody tried X yet?
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Default.a...Article&I=1227
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Old 11-01-2006, 11:02 AM
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I've been a flight sim nut since the old SubLogic days on my Apple IIE, and have owned every version of MSFS, plus most others.

I've finally switched to X-Plane. I just can't seem to wrap my mind around Microsoft's flight model. Everytime you tap the rudder, the plane oscillates back and forth like a pendulum. Drives me batty

X-plane's flight model is the best I've flown but they don't have the eye-candy of Microsoft's.

I haven't tried MSFS X. I'm most interested if they've finally gotten a flight model that behaves a little more realistically? If they have, I might give it a try because I like everything about MSFS.
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Old 11-01-2006, 03:30 PM
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I'm most interested if they've finally gotten a flight model that behaves a little more realistically? If they have, I might give it a try because I like everything about MSFS.
I think you'll be disappointed. It still seems very hard for me to control pitch in FS, and the one are where FS has always been inferior to X-Plane is still just as bad: instrument response. Glass smoooth in X-Plane, herky-jerky in FS(X).
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:15 PM
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Default Graphics!!

Well, I did the Deluxe Edition for Flight Sim X. I'm running it on my laptop, with all the settings on low high it runs fine. The graphics are rather spectacular.

I downloaded the Flight Factory RV-7s for my FS2004. I still have the files in zip form. You computer guys: how do I put those zipped files in X to see if they will work? Any help is appreciated.
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