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Old 09-19-2009, 05:47 AM
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Default Any danger from flying without spinner?

Long story to short - it would be convenient for me to fly a short distance without my spinner (today).

anyone know of good reasons for not doing that?
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:26 AM
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There is a lot of air entering the cowling without a spinner. If you have to fly I would do it at low speed.

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Old 09-19-2009, 06:52 AM
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If your backing plate has sections riveted to it that fill the gap behind the prop when the spinner is in place, you might want to remove it. Otherwise there is a good chance the centrifugal force will rip those parts right off the backing plate. This happened to the RV-6A two hangars down from me while he was doing a ground run.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:17 AM
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If your backing plate has sections riveted to it that fill the gap behind the prop when the spinner is in place, you might want to remove it. Otherwise there is a good chance the centrifugal force will rip those parts right off the backing plate. This happened to the RV-6A two hangars down from me while he was doing a ground run.
Centrifical force ripping the backplate assemply apart? Are you kidding?
That backplate came apart for other reasons.
I have hundreds of hours in both my RV's with no spinner and backplate installed. No speed or cooling changes. None.

Id fly it!
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:23 AM
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Kahuna, what can happen is the little aluminum pieces that fill the gap behind the propeller blades can come off - rip off in fact. This is what Bill R was talking about.

Happened to me once and it was at a fairly low speed. I think it was a combination of centrifugal force and air loads building behind the plates. Each plate had 3 AN3 rivets in it and they both tore off exactly at the same time.

Agree, the spinner has no effect on performance (or not much at all).
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:38 AM
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Ahh. Gap filler peices. OK I get that. I read it the backplate came apart.
I conider the gap fairings part of spinner, not the bacplate.

I have personally flow a dozen RVs with no spinner. Guys do it all the time. Fixed or c/s.
Even with the additional speeds of the Super 8. No problem.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:49 AM
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Default If it has those filler pieces..

...just safety-wire them together. My Cessna 310 had a spinner unwrap itself on a trip and we flew from Mississippi home with safety wire holding those pieces in.

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Old 09-19-2009, 08:06 AM
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Default wrong rivets used?

Quote: "Each plate had 3 AN3 rivets in it and they both tore off exactly at the same time."
My prints say to use 4 AN4 rivets.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:48 AM
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There is also another, more insidious danger.

Flying without the spinner will get you ridiculed for flying an ugly airplane. This will occur for many years following the event...

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Old 09-19-2009, 07:22 PM
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Flying without a spinner... no big deal at all. It's been done for years.
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