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09-14-2009, 02:48 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by Bill Dicus
Haven't flown it yet but it's my understanding that the AFS EFIS with ARINC adaptor (which I have) can send output to the IIVSGV so it can fly ILS/VOR/LOC approaches. This seemed an economical way to obtain the capability. Anybody out there flying this combination successfully? Bill
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I have an SL-30 Navcom connected to the AFS, an Airinc adapter, and the Digiflight II VSGV. ILS, VOR, LOC approaches work fine. I usually use the the AP when practicing, but when I do it for real, I haven't been able to just trust the electrons. Plus I like to fly them by hand.
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09-14-2009, 04:51 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Originally Posted by breister
The Garmin 430/530 apparently do not output VOR/ILS data on either ARINC nor Serial in a format which the TT understands. This is a pity - it means you cannot even perform a LOC approach coupled unless the signal is processed first through a system such as the GRT EFIS.
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The Garmin 430 absolutely outputs VOR and ILS data in ARINC-429 format. The SL-30 does it in serial. If an AP manufacturer wants to fly a VOR or ILS, all the data they need is already there, and in fully published formats. ARINC or Serial is the only connection we (Dynon) need to fly a VOR or ILS. The limitation is not a Garmin or hardware limitation.
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09-14-2009, 08:40 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brisbane Qld. Aust.
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And from our 530W it flies it very well indeed 
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09-15-2009, 06:15 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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Originally Posted by dynonsupport
The Garmin 430 absolutely outputs VOR and ILS data in ARINC-429 format. The SL-30 does it in serial. If an AP manufacturer wants to fly a VOR or ILS, all the data they need is already there, and in fully published formats. ARINC or Serial is the only connection we (Dynon) need to fly a VOR or ILS. The limitation is not a Garmin or hardware limitation.
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Yeah but then they can't charge you for the outdated and expensive analog interfaces and the premium for the extra programing.
Now Dynon on the other hand needs to get off their duff and use this to their advantage in the AP76 for the thousands of "Current Generation" products out there in the field!
"ARINC or Serial is the only connection we (Dynon) need to fly a VOR or ILS" If only you had the AP76 to make good on this statement (disregarding the SL-30)
Last edited by Brantel : 09-15-2009 at 06:19 AM.
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09-15-2009, 07:16 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Las Vegas
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Todd,
Being an owner of the RV-10 AP, GNS 480 and an SL-30 If I had to do it all over I would have climbed all over the Sorcerer if only to take advantage of the added features and the features of both Nav/Comm's. That said, I found a great deal on my RV-10 AP, which is why I bought it, and it ROCKS!!! Now if I was energetic enough to yank my panel to install the ARNIC adapter on my AFS 3500 I could control it from the EFIS, currently I use the 480 to feed the AP. Now that is a good thing because the guys I know that have 480's in their certificated mo'chines understand it's capability and know how to use that capability  drool over the Trutrack's capability....and PRICE  . If you decide to go with the RV-10 AP.....If at all possible dig a little deeper and go one more step up...you won't be disappointed.
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09-15-2009, 08:59 AM
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To clarify on the 430 Arinc/analog discussion. It's my understanding that the straight 430 does not output VOR/LOC/ILS onto any digital stream; analog only. But the 430W does have the Arinc stream containing the VOR/LOC/ILS data, and a separate Arinc GPS stream.
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09-15-2009, 09:42 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Northwestern USA
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Originally Posted by KPmarc
To clarify on the 430 Arinc/analog discussion. It's my understanding that the straight 430 does not output VOR/LOC/ILS onto any digital stream; analog only. But the 430W does have the Arinc stream containing the VOR/LOC/ILS data, and a separate Arinc GPS stream.
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Not quite sure that's true... both the WAAS and non-WAAS 4xx/5xx units on my desk will happily output VOR/LOC/ILS data via ARINC 429!
cheers,
mcb
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09-15-2009, 09:45 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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I stand corrected. My info came from a fairly famous avionics shop, who must also stand corrected!
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09-15-2009, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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Shhhh.. TT does not want anyone to know that it would just take some software changes to make all their ARINC enabled AP's talk to the Nav side of the 430/530/430W/530W....Keep that quiet! 
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09-15-2009, 10:10 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dynonsupport
The Garmin 430 absolutely outputs VOR and ILS data in ARINC-429 format. The SL-30 does it in serial. If an AP manufacturer wants to fly a VOR or ILS, all the data they need is already there, and in fully published formats. ARINC or Serial is the only connection we (Dynon) need to fly a VOR or ILS. The limitation is not a Garmin or hardware limitation.
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The data may be there, but the TT does not know how to "read" it - thus my comment "...in a format which the TT understands."
I rather suspect that due to competition from vendors such as yourselves they will rectify that in the future. When they do, I would be grateful if they offer it as an upgrade for my Digiflight II VSGV. I should then be able to install a switch to select between GPS and VOR/LOC from my GNS 480, since my Dynon EFIS does not provide the nifty interpreter feature to drive my existing autopilot the way other vendors do...
Competition is a wonderful thing!
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