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09-06-2009, 06:59 PM
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RV-3B Aileron Gap rivet question
OK, for those of you playing with -3B's....we are using the standard Aileron Gap Seal piece (looks like a "7" from the end), and I am puzzling over the plans call-out for pop rivets where it meets the rear spar (on the bottom. Seems like since the bottom skin is still off, shooting solid rivets there is a no-brainer, and would look nicer. Can anyone think of a reason I have missed why those should be pops? Solid rivets should even have shorter shop heads, so it should be easier to get a bucking bar on the lower skin rivets when we do those.
(I know that Randy L. and others used an -8 part here, and yeah, that would be a lot easier for riveting the top line of rivets, but I got too far along before reading that particular pearl of wisdom, so we'll struggle with those....)
Paul
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09-06-2009, 07:11 PM
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Hi Paul,
FWIW, I used the stock part and also used 3/32 solids in the rear spar.
Some use the 1/8 pops on the top surface but I was able to use 3/32 solids here also with a long "L-shaped" bucking bar, drive these first of course.
You probably know this but you can adjust the upper skin to aileron gap with this part !
Mike
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09-06-2009, 07:22 PM
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Thanks Mark - good to know I wasn't the only one who looked at the plans and said "huh?"
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RV-8 - N188PD - "Valkyrie"
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RV-3B - N13PL - "Tsamsiyu"
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09-06-2009, 09:19 PM
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Sequencing...
Paul, could it be following the original RV-4/6 wing assembly sequence with the upper skins being riveted on last?
If that is the sequence assumed, then pop rivets are required....
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Originally Posted by Ironflight
OK, for those of you playing with -3B's....we are using the standard Aileron Gap Seal piece (looks like a "7" from the end), and I am puzzling over the plans call-out for pop rivets where it meets the rear spar (on the bottom. Seems like since the bottom skin is still off, shooting solid rivets there is a no-brainer, and would look nicer. Can anyone think of a reason I have missed why those should be pops? Solid rivets should even have shorter shop heads, so it should be easier to get a bucking bar on the lower skin rivets when we do those.
(I know that Randy L. and others used an -8 part here, and yeah, that would be a lot easier for riveting the top line of rivets, but I got too far along before reading that particular pearl of wisdom, so we'll struggle with those....)
Paul
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09-07-2009, 07:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az_gila
Paul, could it be following the original RV-4/6 wing assembly sequence with the upper skins being riveted on last?
If that is the sequence assumed, then pop rivets are required.... 
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That's the conclusion I came to Gil - that the original sequence had the wing closed up before someone figured a gap fairing would help....
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Paul F. Dye
Editor at Large - KITPLANES Magazine
RV-8 - N188PD - "Valkyrie"
RV-6 (By Marriage) - N164MS - "Mikey"
RV-3B - N13PL - "Tsamsiyu"
A&P, EAA Tech Counselor/Flight Advisor
Dayton Valley Airpark (A34)
http://Ironflight.com
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