VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Avionics / Interiors / Fiberglass > Electrical Systems
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-31-2009, 09:10 AM
n38139 n38139 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 678
Default Diode

I want to install an aux battery in my electrical system just for my
EFIS. I have the battery issue worked out but I want to put a diode in the system to isolate the battery. A friend of mine did the same thing I am going to do but I cannot find the p/n diode he used. Any of you electrical gurus know what I need?

thx
__________________
Steve
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-31-2009, 09:24 AM
Mike S's Avatar
Mike S Mike S is online now
Senior Curmudgeon
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
Default

I dont remember the part #, but I went with a Schotkky diode for the lower voltage drop it offered.

They are rated as to voltage, and reverse current. You need to find one that will handle the load you intend to subject it to, plus a bit extra for a safety factor---I used 50%.

Be sure to work in a heat sink into your plans, if your application is going to need it---look at the specs for each diode.

You can find many kinds of mounting for these diodes, may help fit into your particular needs.

Bob Nuchols has a simple setup shown in his Aerolectric Connection book, uses a different diode---but a lot out there flying.

Good luck.
__________________
Mike Starkey
VAF 909

Rv-10, N210LM.

Flying as of 12/4/2010

Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011

Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.

"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-31-2009, 12:34 PM
111RF 111RF is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Littleton, CO
Posts: 19
Default Shottky Diode

For my aux battery for dual EI, I used the Shottky Diode from Perihelion Design - www.periheliondesign.com. With the optional mounting base it's a simple installation.
__________________
Rob Fries
Littleton, CO
RV7 - Fuselage
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-31-2009, 01:00 PM
Garage Guy's Avatar
Garage Guy Garage Guy is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 457
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S View Post
They are rated as to voltage, and reverse current.
I'm guessing you meant to say "rated as to current, and reverse voltage". At least, those are the important things to look at, along with forward voltage drop at working current. (Reverse current is going to be negligibly small.)

That Schottky diode Perihelion has http://www.periheliondesign.com/powerschottkydiodes.htm is overkill to isolate an EFIS battery, but will certainly work, and probably won't even need a heat sink in that application.

--Paul
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-31-2009, 02:05 PM
Mike S's Avatar
Mike S Mike S is online now
Senior Curmudgeon
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garage Guy View Post
I'm guessing you meant to say "rated as to current, and reverse voltage". At least, those are the important things to look at, along with forward voltage drop at working current. (Reverse current is going to be negligibly small.)


--Paul
Yep, my bad.

Not enough coffee at that early post.
__________________
Mike Starkey
VAF 909

Rv-10, N210LM.

Flying as of 12/4/2010

Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011

Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.

"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-31-2009, 02:17 PM
rocketbob's Avatar
rocketbob rocketbob is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: 8I3
Posts: 3,562
Default cheaper and better schottky

Search for DSS2X121-0045B-ND at Digikey.

Two diodes per package, much higher current ratings, better mounting arrangement, and cheaper than the perihelion shottky. If I remember correctly when I researched this one, it also had a lower forward voltage drop.
__________________

Please don't PM me! Email only!

Bob Japundza CFI A&PIA
N9187P PA-24-260B Comanche, flying
N678X F1 Rocket, under const.
N244BJ RV-6 "victim of SNF tornado" 1200+ hrs, rebuilding
N8155F C150 flying
N7925P PA-24-250 Comanche, restoring
Not a thing I own is stock.

Last edited by rocketbob : 08-31-2009 at 02:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-31-2009, 02:24 PM
Rick_A's Avatar
Rick_A Rick_A is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
Posts: 1,519
Default

I used the perihelion Shottky for my E-bus but I used some other sort of diode (don't remember exactly what) for my GRT Aux battery.

I use the Aux bat to initialize the GRT before start up while my Avionics bus is off. On the last few flights, the GRT "grays out" and re-initialized when I start the Engine. I'm thinking that I've blown the diode in the aux bat charging circuit. (The charging circuit connects to the Main Bus, not the Avionics Bus.)

Bottom line. I'll be getting another Shottky from Perihelion.
__________________
Rick Aronow,
A&P
Flying 7A Slider;
RV-12 SOLD
Highland Village,TX
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-31-2009, 02:27 PM
Jkkinz's Avatar
Jkkinz Jkkinz is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kissimmee, Florida
Posts: 178
Default

B&C Specialty Products also carries them with the heat sinks

http://www.bandc.biz/index.aspx
__________________
Jim Kinsey
7A Finishing and Engine
AFS screens
IO360A1A, Catto 3 blade
N527K reserved

Donated thru 2018
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-31-2009, 03:11 PM
Garage Guy's Avatar
Garage Guy Garage Guy is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 457
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jkkinz View Post
B&C Specialty Products also carries them[/url]
Those 'essential bus diodes' at B&C are regular old P-N junction silicon bridge rectifiers, where you end up using only one diode out of 4 in the bridge. Which will work too, but the much lower forward voltage drop of a Schottky is a real plus in this application IMO.

--Paul
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-31-2009, 03:37 PM
apatti apatti is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Middle Georgia
Posts: 654
Default

To isolate my aux bat I used a Schottky Diode from Digi-Key. Their part number is 90SQ030-ND. It is rated for 9A. I am not expecting nearly that much current. No heat sink required. Looks like the forward voltage drop in the current/temp range I am using it will be <.3v.
__________________
Tony
RV8A
N97AP
Warner Robins, GA
Phase I complete
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:12 PM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.