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View Poll Results: Now that the RV-12 is out the door, what should the next RV be?
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Nothing for now - focus on efficiency, cut costs and prices, survive.
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30.20% |
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A factory-built version of the RV-12
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The RV-11 Motorglider
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An amphibian
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7.80% |
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An updated single-seater
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A twin, using the new IO-233 or Rotax engines
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A turboprop
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A jet!
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04-17-2010, 09:42 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 1,158
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I need two more!
(Need is the key word, my wife and I always laugh about the word need)
I absolutely love my RV-10 and know the RV-12 will be great once finished, there are two more planes I want Van's to make though.
Like others have posted, I would love to see an unlimited aerobatic plane (basically an RV-8 stressed to +-12 g's) and a real 6-8 place turbo-prop (maybe fixed gear/pressurized) from Van's.
Those four planes would be the greatest. I agree that a bush plane would be neat too and that would be the fifth plane. (I need a bigger hanger now)
Of course my dream Van's kit is the SpaceShipOne kit from Vans.
Man it is fun to dream!
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Scott Schmidt
Salt Lake City, UT
RV-10 N104XP (1280 Hours)
RV-12 N321UT (Sold)
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04-18-2010, 02:37 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,685
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Van refines and evolves very well - stick with what works
Finish the RV-11 and bring it to market. Van has a personal interest in it and he is very interested in performance. He will adopt other materials and evolve the technology if he determines that is the right way to achieve his performance goals. I think there is enough interest in the RV-11 to allow it to recover development and production costs and make a profit while complementing the rest of the RV line with minimum risk.
Bob Axsom
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04-23-2010, 12:54 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: salem Oregon
Posts: 1,023
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I think they call it a 9A Bryan
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Originally Posted by Bryan Wood
A kit consisting of a 7 wing that would mount to the 9 center section along with 7 tail feathers included in the same kit. I for one would consider purchasing such a kit.
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The 7 & 9 share the same fuselage if thats what you meant about the center section. RON
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04-23-2010, 12:59 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: salem Oregon
Posts: 1,023
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I told Vans the next kit shouldn't be a plane but a AIRBOAT
When theres no more medical and the kids are gone,money is limited you teach the grand kids to rivet. you build a boat and mount that O-200 on the boat and use the filed down old prop from the garage and enjoy your last HUR-RA!!! Ron in OREGON
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04-23-2010, 06:10 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,275
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Scott McDaniels, I called Vans a day or so ago and asked about updated plans for the quick build. I was told that they have not been updated to make it easier to sort through the written instructions.
24 April 2010 Update: Based upon Scott's input, I will look closer at the kit and instructions to see if I missed something (don't tell anyone but I have been wrong before).
Last edited by Ron Lee : 04-24-2010 at 06:56 AM.
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04-23-2010, 11:07 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
Posts: 9,027
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Lee
Scott McDaniels, I called Vans a day or so ago and asked about updated plans for the quick build. I was told that they have not been updated to make it easier to sort through the written instructions.
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I guess I wasn't clear...
About four years ago Van's introduced a fully prepunched fuselage kit for the RV-8 (prior to that only the outer skins were prepunched, very little of the sub structure was).
It is refered to as the -1 fuselage (all part #'s have a -1 at the end of them).
Anyone that has purchased (from Van's) a fuselage (standard build or Q.B.) in the past 3 years or so would have a -1 fuselage.
The -1 fuselage construction manual was written in a format very similar to the RV-10, and it has a point designated where to begin construction if you are building from a Q.B. kit.
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Scott McDaniels
Van's Aircraft Engineering Prototype Shop Manager
Hubbard, Oregon
RV-6A (aka "Junkyard Special ")
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04-23-2010, 09:48 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: S21, Oregon
Posts: 161
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I'd LOVE the opportunity to build my own full size P-51 replica.......
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Kelly
RV-7 empennage done, wings done, fuselage to QB stage.
1973 Maule M4-220C flying
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07-31-2010, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 36
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Vans next ideas
1. Bring the RV-11 to market.
2. Modernize the RV-3 kit so it can more effectively compete with Sonex's new Onex. Just watch - Sonex is going to make an absolute killing on that one...
I asked two different guys at Van's about modernizing the RV-3. They just flat out didn't seem interested. WTF...!?!
- Patrick
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07-31-2010, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
Posts: 3,502
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PatrickW
1. Bring the RV-11 to market.
2. Modernize the RV-3 kit so it can more effectively compete with Sonex's new Onex. Just watch - Sonex is going to make an absolute killing on that one...
I asked two different guys at Van's about modernizing the RV-3. They just flat out didn't seem interested. WTF...!?!
- Patrick
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Look at how many RV-3 kits are sold each year. It would be a LOT of man hours to re-Engineer a kit that they do not sell a lot of. The re-Engineering of the kit would RAISE the price of the KIT a LOT. The RV-3 will not meet the requirements for an LSA. The Onex is listed as a Sport Pilot airplane. In other words, it is an LSA.
From the Onex web page:
The Onex is a simple and economical single-place all metal aircraft design that promises to continue the lineage of outstanding Sonex Aircraft sport pilot performance.
The RV-3B is a real airplane that requires a pilot's license and medical. The Onex says Sport Pilot so it sounds like you will not need a medical. The Onex will also have a cruse speed limitation of 134 MPH else it will also require a pilots license and medical to fly and no longer be a Sport Pilot airplane.
As a DAR, I have done initial airworthiness inspections on several Sonex and Waiex. IMHO, they are a very nice simple airplane. IF I could not get a medical certificate to fly an RV, a Sonex would be at the top of my list.
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Gary A. Sobek
NC25 RV-6 Flying
3,400+ hours
Where is N157GS
Building RV-8 S/N: 80012
To most people, the sky is the limit.
To those who love aviation, the sky is home.
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07-31-2010, 08:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Chino, CA
Posts: 738
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O-200
If the RV-12 had a O-200 (and fuel in the wings), I'd be building one now.
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Tom Prokop
Chino, CA
RV-8A,180/CS/Carb, AFS 4500 EFIS/EMS
RV-6, sold, 820 hrs of fun.
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