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Old 08-08-2009, 07:13 AM
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Hi All,

A year or two ago there was a fascinating video taken of an 'A' model nosewheel shimmy.

I think it was discussed in this thread
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...nosegear+video

I have found a few others but none as 'bad' as the one in the video.

The link in the discussion is now dead. Does anyone have a new link or a copy of the video for me?
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:24 AM
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I remember that video....

Just so you know, my 6A suffered that type of shimmy on it's very first landing (last Sept.). I let the nose down to quick, and the nose wheel nut needed to be torqued a bit more, as they loosen when new.

I'm now 91 hrs past that, and haven't had a landing shimmy since.

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Old 09-14-2009, 03:41 AM
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Any more takers?
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:52 AM
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I made a copy of one video from about this timeframe. I'm not sure if it is the one you mention as this one shows fore & aft oscillation of the nosegear spar and very little shimmy or left to right motion of the actual nosewheel.

If interested I'll put it up somewhere.
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:22 AM
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Here is one I posted back in 2006.

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Old 09-14-2009, 09:29 AM
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Clearly the fore and aft oscillation has nothing to do with fork nut preload.

I'm curious about a detail. Can someone post a few photos of a 7A engine mount and landing gear strut sans engine?
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:16 AM
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Here is one I posted back in 2006.

Nosegear shimmy
That's the same one I have a copy of.

For the fore & aft oscillation shown, important info would be what type of nose wheel installed, whether there is a 'spacer' between the bearings on the axle bolt, torque on the axle bolt, rolling friction, etc.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:26 AM
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For the fore & aft oscillation shown, important info would be what type of nose wheel installed, whether there is a 'spacer' between the bearings on the axle bolt, torque on the axle bolt, rolling friction, etc.
None of those things matter if the wheel/tire assembly is truly round, and if the there is no variation is rolling resistance with each revolution.
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:21 PM
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....I'm curious about a detail. Can someone post a few photos of a 7A engine mount and landing gear strut sans engine?
Dan,

I don't know if these photos of the engine mount fitted to my -6A can help satisfy your curiosity. I suspect this engine mount is very similar in design to the -7 series nevertheless, the shimmy condition has been known to occur in the -6 series too.


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Old 09-14-2009, 02:53 PM
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Thanks Rick. I was thinking abut truss stiffness for the nose gear tube. Easy to make a structure strong enough, but sometimes difficult to make it stiff enough.
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