Lycoming from Vans or Other

RudiGreyling · #1 07-27-2009, 11:18 AM

Hi Guys,

I am evaluating if I am going to buy a RV10 XIO-540-D4A5 from Vans or Other. (Their Oshkosh engine prop combo looks very promising)

2 years ago I bought a stock standard XP-IO-360 for my RV7, a beautifull engine even in standard trim with nice anidozed casings and black cylinder heads etc. It was cheaper then a lycoming and looked much better too.

Now I see the std Lycoming Engine offered by Vans is a ugly grey, looks like they just painted the whole thing after it was assembled.

How I wish XP was still around and made 6 cylinder engine!

Here is my Question:
I am not after a better performance i.e. hot engine, just a stock standard, hopefully better looking and maybe better balanced engine, at a better price.

For the guys that recently did the calculations, can you get a better stock engine deal from one of the engine assemblers out there????

Thanks in advance,
Regards
Rudi

RudiGreyling · #2 07-28-2009, 01:32 AM

Hmm no replies yet???

Kokemiller · #3 07-28-2009, 05:36 AM

Rudi,
I was also looking for a stock engine for my 9A. I didn't want a bunch of bells and whistles, just dual mag, carburated engine. I did want it built as precise as possible and to look as good as the money I spent. Barrett Precision Engines does the extra balancing, machining and painting I was looking for plus they build a lot of airshow performers engines and if they are good enough for that abuse I think it will work very well for me. As far as price, if you are going to buy a new engine, you will have to pay new engine price regardless of where you buy it. My engine is on display at OSH in the BPE booth as I write this. If you are there stop in and talk to them or call them after Oshkosh. They advertise on VAF so just click on thier link.

Rick6a · #4 07-28-2009, 05:51 AM

With a competitive price point compared to other manufacturers who build upon an original Lycoming design, I ordered a factory new Lycoming engine from Van's. I could care less about its ugly grey color. At about the same time, I also placed a Van's accessory catalog order for a Lightspeed Plasma III ignition system. Later, I was surprised to discover the new engine warranty would be void if I installed the Lightspeed. I returned the unopened ignition system to Van's. Doing so, I had to absorb additional return shipping costs and a portion of the 10% restocking fee. For a $1500+ purchase, this was no small item. I do understand how such a thing could be overlooked by Van's employees, especially when the builder places an order for an engine using a dedicated order form and settles payment one way compared to routinely making on-line accessory catalog purchases with a credit card. Still, it would be helpful if in its literature describing new engines, Van's would include mention of the OEM warranty issue in the first place. Other manufacturers may not have such a policy. Knowing that information in advance, the potential customer is all the more informed prior to investing in the engine/ignition system of their choosing.

RudiGreyling · #5 07-28-2009, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N4744Z

Rudi,
I was also looking for a stock engine for my 9A. I didn't want a bunch of bells and whistles, just dual mag, carburated engine. I did want it built as precise as possible and to look as good as the money I spent. Barrett Precision Engines does the extra balancing, machining and painting I was looking for plus they build a lot of airshow performers engines and if they are good enough for that abuse I think it will work very well for me. As far as price, if you are going to buy a new engine, you will have to pay new engine price regardless of where you buy it. My engine is on display at OSH in the BPE booth as I write this. If you are there stop in and talk to them or call them after Oshkosh. They advertise on VAF so just click on thier link.

Ditto Kelly, I want the engine to be a sprecise as possible and look like $37K.

I want to stick as closely to RV10 plans, no unessary modification, being far from the USA in South Africa(SA) , staying close to plans means I don't have fiddle or run around for funny parts that is hard to find in SA.

Are you saying that BPE can give me a little more than std lycoming can for the same "NEW ENGINE" price?

Sorry I am not at Oshkosh this year, would have loved seeing your Engine.

RudiGreyling · #6 07-28-2009, 06:20 AM

Thanks Rick, I see the potential problem!

L.Adamson · #7 07-28-2009, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick6a

I could care less about its ugly grey color.

Same here!

I suppose the only time it would matter.............is if your plane is flying unpainted (which is kind of ugly itself) , and you need to remove the top cowl to impress someone, as well as yourself. Other than that; no one sees the engine.

L.Adamson --- RV6A (flying), and unpainted planes are ugly..

gpiney · #8 07-28-2009, 07:31 AM

The dollar difference between Vans price and a Mattituck engine is around 2K. Mattituck makes a 'pretty' engine, along with other features you don't get with the Lycoming. And their reputation is second to none. Also, Mattituck offers a number of options which would be extra cost/DIY with the Lycoming.

That is where I plan to get my engine.

RudiGreyling · #9 07-28-2009, 07:37 AM

Some people care some people don't. Same reason I did not fly my first RV 7plane unpainted. I care hence I am asking the question

RudiGreyling · #10 07-28-2009, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpiney

The dollar difference between Vans price and a Mattituck engine is around 2K. Mattituck makes a 'pretty' engine, along with other features you don't get with the Lycoming. And their reputation is second to none. Also, Mattituck offers a number of options which would be extra cost/DIY with the Lycoming.

That is where I plan to get my engine.

Is that 2K more or less than Vans?