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07-10-2009, 03:30 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Gold Hill, NC25
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Weighing Pro-seal. Which scale
After having built a dozen tanks, Im now building another set and have decided to get more precise than my eye-balls. I have a suspicion that my last set of tanks on my 8 has blisters from possibly not properly weighing/mixing the sealant. Just one possibility of a hundred that has been hashed out in other threads.
So, this time Im gonna weigh it. There are a gazillion kitchen digital scales. I do not know what resolution I need. Is 1gram enough? Seems most go to a gram/.05oz.
A grain of rice weighs ~25mg. Seems I would need resolution to at least that huh?
Also, last time I read a label, it is supposed to be mixed by volume 10:1. Well how is that ever accomplished? Has to be by weight right? How does the 10:1volume translate to weight?
I have 5 tanks to build on this set of wings and Id preferr to get it right this time.
Thanks for your help.
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Kahuna
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Gold Hill, NC25
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07-10-2009, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Clarion, Pennsylvania
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I started with a 1g scale and switched to a 0.1g scale. My batches ranged from 5-80 g, and the 1g scale isn't precise enough for the hardener in the smaller batches.
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07-10-2009, 03:41 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Jackson, MS
Posts: 1,262
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I used a Salter digital kitchen scale that weighs both grams and ounces. It's flat and works great.
What ever one you buy, put it in a large ziplock bag. When you're done, pull out the nice clean scale and give it to you wife to use in the kitchen.
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Webb Willmott
Jackson, MS
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07-10-2009, 03:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
Posts: 5,122
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I bought a Walmart kitchen digital food scale, measures in grams and ounces. Most of my proseal loads were from 10 to 80 grams. The mix is 10:1 by weight regardless of what measurement you use.
I really enjoyed the "tare" feature, I put a mixing dish on empty, tared it, loaded "about" the right amount of sealant into that dish, noted the weight, tared it again and loaded 1/10 of the original weight of hardener, and mixed away.
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Greg Niehues - SEL, IFR, Repairman Cert.
Garden City, TX VAF 2020 dues paid 
N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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07-10-2009, 04:27 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lake St. Louis, MO.
Posts: 2,346
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I would not overthink the process. Proseal is relatively forgiving stuff and I doubt improper mixing is the root source of your paint blistering problem. Outdated or worse....improperly stored proseal is a greater threat.
I have only a built a total of 4 leak free RV fuel tanks but in addition to that have repaired a general aviation fuel tank or two and have mixed and applied many hundreds of POUNDS (not ounces) of proseal under the watchful eye of a critical quality control department for extensive use on the taxpayers salt-water combat jets. In the production environment, we mixed proseal and other exotic products using a table top version of the type of scale rigged with sliding weights not unlike the type of scale found in many doctor offices.
For homebuilding purposes, I rely on a good old Royal EX-5 postal scale mixing the proseal 10-1 by WEIGHT as we did on the shop floor...and unless I am missing something, apparently Van's recommends you do the same:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/...roduct=proseal

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Rick Galati
RV6A N307R"Darla!"
RV-8 N308R "LuLu"
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07-11-2009, 05:50 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kyle, TX
Posts: 566
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I got mine from here:
http://www.micromark.com/DIGITAL-SCA...CITY,8812.html
Great little scale and fairly inexpensive.
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Fred Magare
GySgt, USMC (Ret.)
PP-ASEL, A&P
Frederic.magare "at" gmail.com
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07-11-2009, 06:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 2,357
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I was too cheap to buy a scale. I used some scrap to make a beam scale with one arm 10 times the length of the other one. Gravity hasn't let me down yet.
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07-12-2009, 02:50 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 114
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I bought a very inexpensive digital scale at Harbor Freight Tools, and it worked great. I also used it for weighing epoxy resin, superfil and now paint.
N. Powell
RV-9A
In the process of painting
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07-12-2009, 09:16 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dothan, Alabama
Posts: 1,487
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick6a
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That is exactly what I used. Plastic cups, the little ones that sit beside the bathroom sink. I made up about 3 ounces at a shot for one rib at a time.
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Alton DeWeese
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Flying ~950 hours since Aug 2010
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07-26-2009, 03:12 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 171
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