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05-20-2009, 09:08 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Salmon Arm, BC
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Pmag rpm drop
I installed a new Pmag on my injected 320 and notice when I do the mag check at 1700 - 1800 rpm I get nearly 200 rpm drop when running on the Pmag only. I have a Slick on the other side and I get less than 100 rpm drop when running only on that.
Here are the steps I have taken so far:
- Confirmed the wiring
- Reset the timing
- Checked all the plug wires for appropriate resistance.
- Changed the spark plugs (new for new)
- Changed the Pmag unit (I bought two, only installed one)
- Removed the jumper to use the alternate timing curve
The only change I noticed in doing the above was the idle became smoother with the jumper removed, but I still get the ~200 rpm drop.
The Pmag is running the bottom plugs, the Slick is running the top plugs.
What is normal, and should I be concerned?
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Mark Olson
1987 RV-4 Sold
2003 Super Decathlon - Sold
F1 EVO Rocket, first flight May 31/14
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05-20-2009, 09:27 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Atlanta
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Check the timing on the Slick. If the timing on it has crept up you will notice a large RPM drop when you turn off the Slick mag.
Example... Both mags 'on' the timing may be 30 degrees BTDC. Turn off the P-Mag and the timing is still 30 BTDC, not much RPM drop. Turn off the the Slick and now the timing is 15 BTDC, you will notice a large RPM drop.
My Rose ignition shows almost no RPM drop when I turn if off because it runs about 15 BTDC at 1800 RPM and the Slick is set to 26 BTDC.
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RV-7 Sold
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05-20-2009, 11:06 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Salmon Arm, BC
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AH HA
Thanks Sid, I never thought of that. I will check it out next week when I get back to the airport.
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Mark Olson
1987 RV-4 Sold
2003 Super Decathlon - Sold
F1 EVO Rocket, first flight May 31/14
First in line for the Sonex JSX-2T kit
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05-18-2010, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dundas , Ontario , Canada
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Hi Mark,
I know it's an old thread but I was wondering if you ever got to the bottom of this issue ? I'm curious because I have a 4 with an IO-320 that I'm thinking of adding a P-mag to .
Marc
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Formerly N144RS
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05-18-2010, 08:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Salmon Arm, BC
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Changed the engine
At the same time this was happening I was also having problems with #1 plug fouling regularly (like every flight). I also started going through a quart of oil per hour. Compressions were over 70 on all cylinders but I pulled the jugs thinking I should do a top overhaul. Inspection revealed some corrosion on the cam so I replace the entire engine with a new one from Aerosport Power.
Now I get less than 100 rpm drop on the Pmag, and nearly 200 drop on the Slick (its almost like I reversed the switches!). I am planning to replace the Slick with another Pmag (I bought two to start with) when I have this down for the annual in June.
BTW, new engine is working great.
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Mark Olson
1987 RV-4 Sold
2003 Super Decathlon - Sold
F1 EVO Rocket, first flight May 31/14
First in line for the Sonex JSX-2T kit
Last edited by SMO : 05-18-2010 at 08:57 AM.
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05-18-2010, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Near Scipio, in Southern Indiana
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I'll bet you will be happy with the combo. I had a higher drop on the Slick side before I switched to P-Mag/E-mag combo. Let us know how it turns out.
Bob Kelly
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05-19-2010, 08:02 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
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Mine are criss crossed
Just for another data point, my ignitions fire the top on oneside and the bottom on the other. Don't know if it makes a difference.
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Charlie "T.Bear" Guarino
Springtown, TX
RV-4 Flying again with a fresh overhaul
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