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05-10-2009, 04:34 PM
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Fuel Burn: Auto vs. Aero
Probably a dumb question but why the difference in fuel consumption per hour between different engine types.
RV-9A, 1100 lbs, O-320 Lycoming, carbureted, 2300 RPM (fix pitch wood sensinitch prop) = 8 Gallons/hr (give or take).
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1971 ? Ton Dodge Power Wagon Pick up, 4000 lbs, 318 cu. In. V-8, two barrel carburetor, 2300 RPM (14 miles/gallon and 60 miles/hr) = 4.3 Gallons/hr.
Similar engines running the same duration and RPM, yet the Auto engine burns half the fuel while pulling 4 times the load. Just curious and figured someone here could clue me in.
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doug
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05-10-2009, 04:39 PM
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I don't want to state the obvious but the truck only goes 60 miles in one hour where the -9 will probably go 160 miles in an hour.
Truck 14 mpg where as the RV gets 20 mpg.
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05-10-2009, 04:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dougknight
Probably a dumb question but why the difference in fuel consumption per hour between different engine types.
RV-9A, 1100 lbs, O-320 Lycoming, carbureted, 2300 RPM (fix pitch wood sensinitch prop) = 8 Gallons/hr (give or take).
VS.
1971 ? Ton Dodge Power Wagon Pick up, 4000 lbs, 318 cu. In. V-8, two barrel carburetor, 2300 RPM (14 miles/gallon and 60 miles/hr) = 4.3 Gallons/hr.
Similar engines running the same duration and RPM, yet the Auto engine burns half the fuel while pulling 4 times the load. Just curious and figured someone here could clue me in.
Thanks
doug
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It's horse power, Doug.
The V-8 is not producing near the power the 0320 is.
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05-10-2009, 04:41 PM
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Dude, help the economy buy a new truck!
Dave has it right, I'm gonna guess the truck is running at 35% power?
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Last edited by Geico266 : 05-10-2009 at 04:45 PM.
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05-10-2009, 04:53 PM
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I would also like to add that you would be burning a lot more than 8 gallons an hour in the pickup truck if it was going(if it could) 160 mph. The biggest energy cost is Drag and drag is related to the velocity squared.
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05-10-2009, 04:57 PM
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TSwezey
Not talking about time vs distance, talking time vs fuel consumed while running @ same RPM.
Geico266.Dude, help the economy buy a new truck
Spent all my $ on the plane. ha ha!
I guess I still don't understand how the truck can pull 4 times the load on half the fuel @ 35% power
doug
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05-10-2009, 05:04 PM
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You are not doing the same amount of work! RPMs don't mean a thing!
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05-10-2009, 05:26 PM
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OK, The drag thing helps as does the amount of work, I guess.
If both engines were taken out of their respective vehicles and placed on engine stands side by side and run at the same RPM with no load. Would they burn the same amout of fuel??
doug
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05-10-2009, 06:00 PM
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05-10-2009, 06:11 PM
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Compare power not RPM
First, it's a fact that a good airplane engine like a IO-320 can produce 1 hp per hour on 0.4 pounds of fuel. The truck, even with FI, doesn't accomplish that or at least no better.
Second, you are not looking at the power factors, just RPM. You need to look at MAP, too if you want to make a comparison. Your MAP at 60 mph will be about 12 inches, more or less, maybe even less. You need a vacuum gauge which is kinda like an MAP meter.
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