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Old 11-28-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default It's all in the mind.

I used to train fellow pilots on Boeings..... and Fokkers etc.etc.
I trained the Captains whilst sitting in the right seat and FOs whilst sitting in the left.
I never noticed any difference from either seat in the end result of my flying. (The landings were fair average quality I admit, but consistent regardless of the seat they were performed from.)
If you think your right hand dexterity is signifitly better than your left, then have the throttles in the centre. Good engine control is just as important as good flight control. Particularly if you plan to do any formation work.

Now if you really want to improve your cockpit and you are like me (both your arms are the same length) then spend the effort instead, moving the throttle quadrant back to the line of the sticks. Believe me, the difference is delightful.
See my early post in this thread "Why Bother."

Pete.
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default on center consoles

One of the items I don't see mentioned on the center console installation is what must be done if you nee to work under the panel AFTER the plane is completed. Especially if you have a slider. If you are at all somewhat 'full figured' or even not, you won't like having to find a position on your back with a permanent mount center console. You will more than likely have to remove the console and throttle quadrant every time you need to work under the panel. Not fun.
I have found that the original setup with the throttle mounted under the dash and the flap switch right above it are the ideal setup. The right hand doesn't have to move at all during the landing proceedure.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:01 AM
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Default Fuzz

G,day,
Yeh I am about halfway through doing the left throttle with centre throttle as well. i think that I have got it sussed out, I have only been working on it for 4 or 5 hours, I think it will work great and doesnt appear to hard. I know that its a lot of stuffing around, but I have flown 10 or 12 thousand hours in stick aircraft with left quadrant, and old habits are hard to kick. if you want send some details and I will give you the deal.
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:35 AM
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It's all in the mind.
Yeah, so's handwriting and throwing a baseball... Most of us actually do fly better, more precisely, more finessed, in ONE configuration. The difference may be small, but there is a difference.

Build it however you want to.

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Old 12-28-2005, 04:55 PM
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I frequently switch back and forth 'tween left and right (T-34 and Wichita spam) and have never needed even a second for reacquiring the "feel". I'm not ambidextrous or overly coordinated, just average. If I was building an 8, I'd go with left throttles but then again, I would also put all those other switchy and knobby things on the left. Since I'm building a 7A - throttles right so I don't have to switch hands on the stick to reach those things that seem to need reaching at inopportune and busy times (a better erganomic solution increases safety significantly).

Jekyll
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:29 PM
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As someone who writes with his left hand I have to ask how does the hand you write with figure into the decision of where to locate the engine/prop controls?

Do other lefties find any advantage to a left set up?

Scott
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:02 PM
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As someone who writes with his left hand I have to ask how does the hand you write with figure into the decision of where to locate the engine/prop controls?
If you like to take notes while you fly (copy clearances, ATIS, dead reckoning math, etc.) you want your writing hand to NOT be on the stick. For a lefty sitting in the left seat, that means right hand on the stick and left hand on the throttle.
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:18 PM
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As someone who writes with his left hand I have to ask how does the hand you write with figure into the decision of where to locate the engine/prop controls?

Do other lefties find any advantage to a left set up?

Scott
I write & eat with my left hand, but prefer using sissors, tinsnips, pistols, and throwing with my right. I gave serious thought to adding a left hand throttle, since I have some Pitts time, but didn't.

Now, when I sit in my RV6A, the left hand feels natural, as it can rest on the armrest, and the right hand would seem a bit weird, especially for ease of radio knobs. etc. In fact, a left hand throttle might feel a bit cramped in the 6.

Left hand also feels natural in the Diamond DA40 which uses two sticks & center throttle quadrant. On the other hand, if I built a tandem such as the RV8, it would be right hand stick & left hand throttle quadrant. For desktop flight simulation, I also prefer a right hand joystick.
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:48 PM
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I set my 6A up to have the PIC in the right seat. Flight instruments on the right. Stick in right hand, throttle in left as it should be a la military aircraft. What difference does it make which side you sit on?

Buddies love it. They get to fly in the left seat all the time!

I'm building my -10 the same way.
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:01 PM
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I'm probably going to set up my -7 for Right Seat PIC most of the time. It looks like by the time I finish it, I'll be a CFI, so I'll be used to flying on the right side, and it will save me the trouble of setting up the dual-throttle setup I was originally going to do.
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