TOLD aka Take Off and Landing Data

cguarino · #1 02-03-2009, 08:40 AM

I have a question for you aero majors out there. If I have a known data point for a RV-4, like gross weight, 65 degrees, SL, no wind takeoff distance. Can I extrapolate the required takeoff distance for different temps and headwinds/tailwinds? Are there formulas for this or is the only way to get this data is through flight test? I don't think I can just add or subtract 17% for each 10 knots of tailwind/headwind. I'm guessing it is more complicated than that. Also, how about temp changes? The point of all this is that I have a runway with a perfered takeoff direction. I can use it in both directions but much rather taking off toward an open field vs obstructions. I want to be able to figure out how much tailwind I can accept before I need to use the opposite direction. Also, how does this apply to landing distances and 50 ft obstacle distances. I understand that turf vs asphalt will be different. I will only compare apples and apples. Thanks.

n5lp · #2 02-03-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cguarino

I have a question for you aero majors out there. If I have a known data point for a RV-4, like gross weight, 65 degrees, SL, no wind takeoff distance. Can I extrapolate the required takeoff distance for different temps and headwinds/tailwinds? Are there formulas for this or is the only way to get this data is through flight test? ...

The Koch Chart is the basic place to start.

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John Clark · #3 02-03-2009, 10:56 AM

Larry is right, the Koch chart is the place to start as density altitude will be the biggest factor. Here are a couple of more considerations. First, tailwinds. Rule of thumb, a 5 knot tailwind (tailwind component, not 5 knots of wind) on takeoff will add 25% to the takeoff roll. 10 knots will add 55%. Remember too, the tailwind will reduce the effective climb angle. The next consideration is runway slope. a 2% up slope will add 15% to the takeoff roll and a 2% downslope will decrease the roll by 10%.

John Clark ATP, CFI
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
KSBA