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Old 01-31-2009, 07:25 PM
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Default RV-4 down in U.K.??

I got a phone call from a friend in England, who saw on the BBC news that a RV-4 flipped on a runway. She said that there was video of it. The person on board was allright. Anybody heard anything???

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Old 01-31-2009, 08:03 PM
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Mike...

3am in UK, and no reports on BBC I can see, or on UK RV Forums, or pPrune... all of which would probably quickly pick up on it?

Maybe some wires crossed, and this video on BBC news website? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7859807.stm
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Old 02-01-2009, 06:15 AM
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Andy;

Thats probably it. Shes not too aircraft savy, glad to see no one was hurt bad.

Mike
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Old 02-01-2009, 06:33 AM
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Looks like a Cesna 170 coming in too fast to 3 point land, no elevator control on tail touchdown, but it looks like the brakes worked good.

Something tells me this was a new TD pilot.
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Old 02-01-2009, 09:46 AM
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look closer at the tail. it's a 180!!!!
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:36 AM
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Late 50's early 60's 180... Too bad, it looked like he had it if he hadn't jammed on the brakes. I hate it that people have to ruin a perfectly good airplane because they don't get the proper training... it hurts my soul.
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Old 02-01-2009, 07:56 PM
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Default Early 50's 180

In fact it is a 1954.. One can tell because of the angle of the landing gear as it relates to the fuselage. By 1955, the folks in Wichita decided to cant the main gear a few degrees forward, in order to try to avoid precisely this kind of accident.
Cessna 180's and 185's are wonderful, predictable aircraft, but they will humble even an experienced pilot from time to time. Having been 'round them for more than 50 years, I can say that first hand.
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:57 AM
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Default Catch 22

Having looked at the video I think it's not simply just a case of jamming the brakes on too hard.
It looks more like they have started to loose directional control (full rudder deflection and the fact they ended up partly off the runway) and may have tried to correct with more brake. Catch 22 ground loop off the side vs end up nosing over.
The touch down etc didn't look like a beginer. These things can sometimes catch even the more experienced guys out.

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