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01-07-2009, 09:09 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fort Myers, FL
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CCC-32 substitute for MK-319-BS?
I ordered some MK-319-BS from spruce but got some CCC-32. I see that in the catalog they're listed as equivalent but they seem different than the MK-319-BS I had from Van but I'm not sure they're different enough to not meet the same spec.
Any insight?
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01-07-2009, 09:26 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Crestwood, KY
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When they broke they left a stub
I tried they at one time. When I used them I found them leaving a stub from the mandrel. Could be bad technique on my part but now I just order the MK-319-BS's from Vans. Vans seems to be the only vendor I could find that carries the MK-319-BS.
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01-07-2009, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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The CCC-32 is a stainless rivet and is no where near as robust as the MK-319-BS. Some also warn against problems with corrosion when using these.
If it is something non critical and I want a true 3/32 rivet I have used a few of them but for the most part if I need a flush one I use the MK-319-BS and just countersink the dimple a little to get it to sit flush.
Get them from Van's.
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01-07-2009, 12:14 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Woodinville, WA
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I had very poor results with the CCC-32 rivets. A dimpled #40 hole is too large to seat the shop head properly. I tried using them on a few wing-skin-to-spar holes, but it didn't sufficiently pull the parts together, and they were really loose. In fact, I had to grab the shop head with pliers while drilling them out, to prevent them from spinning in the hole.
More info on this thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ad.php?t=34637
-Rob
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01-07-2009, 12:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Thomas
I ordered some MK-319-BS from spruce but got some CCC-32. I see that in the catalog they're listed as equivalent but they seem different than the MK-319-BS I had from Van but I'm not sure they're different enough to not meet the same spec.
Any insight?
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The CCC32 rivets are what are used for nutplates when you can't use a solid rivet to hold the nutplate on. I do not think they can be used interchangeably for structural purposes. Better check with Van's. If they messed up your order, they'll fix it, I'm sure.
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01-07-2009, 08:45 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fort Myers, FL
Posts: 483
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Thank guys, I'll send them back. I ordered them over the phone because I couldn't find them online. I wish they would have told me that they were using a substitute product; I would have ordered everything from Van's. Live and learn.
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