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Old 12-09-2008, 01:54 PM
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Default RE:Tip Up Surprise!!!!!!

Today after many months or is that years building/fabrication/fiberglassing/fitting/refitting/searching for perfection/expletive deleted/painting my tip up canopy was installed today.
I finally got to pull off all of the protective covering (Vans installed and my installed). Man did it feel good to get to the end of the line as far as the canopy was concerned. It isn't perfect but it is what it is!!!!!!!

WHAT !!!!@#&*(%$%^.....on close inspection the canopy still had one last surprise for me.

Somehow.....not sure considering the interior and exterior of the canopy was incased in many layers of protective coating.... some epoxy resin made its way to the interior side of the canopy in the lower starboard side near the glare shield and HARDENED!!!!!!!!!!!It forms an 1/8 wide drip line culminating in a tear drop drip about 6 inches long. The drip movement is from bottom of canopy moving towards the top so the canopy had to have been upside down..................I know this post morteum is probably not needed here except to help me get some frustration out of my system.

So now the big question......HOW DO I FIX THIS INTERESTING SITUATION....?

Thanks for putting up with my rambling explanation but more importantly thanks for any help in determining how to fix this monster I just want this darn canopy DONE!!!!!!!

Frank @ 1L8 ...RV7A... painting and back to canopy fabrication!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 12-09-2008, 02:22 PM
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As that section of the canopy wasn't prepped in any way, have you tried just knocking the majority of it off due to poor adhesion?
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:54 PM
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What Scott said. Try getting a fingernail under it and see if it pops right off.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:44 PM
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Went out and gave the stuff a good scratch with my fingernail. No Joy.....It would appear that Aeroepoxy sticks even when the surface is slick as ice!!!

I was thinking I would probably in circle the area with a few layers of duct tape. Slowly use 220/320 grit paper to get the resin down to the plexi and then sand with 600 grit or finer. I would then get some of the plexie scratch remover and HOPE that it would give me a final clear plexi in the effected area. I am just not sure what is the best scratch remover product to buy!!!!

Frank @ 1L8 ...RV7A... painting plus maybe rebuild the whole planedo I sound a bit negative.

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Old 12-09-2008, 03:52 PM
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I would try masking with tape like you suggest, but before I sanded it I would try to put a piece of wood against the edge of the epoxy and tap the other end lightly with a hammer. Something like a paint stirrer or one of those wedges you use for truing up a door frame. I would be surprised if you couldn't pop it off.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:57 PM
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I also think I would protect the area with tape, but would use a single edge razor blade or equivalent as a scraper to level the drip as much as possible. Only resort to sandpaper for the last bit.

Guy
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:59 PM
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I have had good luck with this stuff ACS sells. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...ieldrestor.php Its for heavy scratches, sounds like what you may need. Good luck.

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I am just not sure what is the best scratch remover product to buy!!!!

Frank @ 1L8 ...RV7A... painting plus maybe rebuild the whole planedo I sound a bit negative.
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:20 PM
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the plexi you can polish it up ok byt going finer and finer...use metal polish and die grinder or something fast moving to bring back to clear.

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Old 12-09-2008, 04:28 PM
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the plexi you can polish it up ok byt going finer and finer...use metal polish and die grinder or something fast moving to bring back to clear.

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Move too fast and the friction will heat and melt the plexi.

I have a small melt in my canopy where I used a Dremel tool at medium speed and it melted. It is low and small so I don't worry about it.

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Old 12-09-2008, 04:37 PM
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I also think I would protect the area with tape, but would use a single edge razor blade or equivalent as a scraper to level the drip as much as possible. Only resort to sandpaper for the last bit.

Guy
Just got through giving Guy's suggestion ago.

I taped around the affected area. Found a new single edge razor. Put its point in the drip end and gave a little pressure.

The drip end came loose....YES....plexi was uneffected by the resin ......yes again. I slowly started to pull the drip end down as the thinner layer began to seperate from the plexi....yes again again.....But it was so thin it finally broke in half....

So now it is going to be a very slow teadious process of getting the very sharp razor to lift off the rest. I still may have to do some sctach removal before this saga is concluded.

So Guy and the rest of you good folks thanks for bring me back to the reality that I have learned in the 4 plus years of building this plane. ANY PROBLEM HAS A SOLUTION!!!! Plus come on "Frank 2" the sky isn't falling it is to be flown in.

Frank 2 @ 1L8 ...RV7A... painting

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