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12-04-2008, 07:17 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Boise, ID
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Garmin 695/6 Mounting
Would someone kindly post pix of the backside of a 695/6, or words, so I can get an idea of panel mount adaptability? I know they are supplied with a yoke mount; that gets tossed. It's the yoke interface that I'd likely pick up with some sort of clamp that extends beyond the necessary panel cutout yet remains within the perimeter of the (swollen) case.
John Siebold
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12-04-2008, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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John,
Check out AirGizmos' site. They are in the process of developing a docker for the 696 and you can get on thier waiting list.
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12-04-2008, 07:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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696 mount
Air Gizmos is developing a Gizmo to hold the 696. It will be approx 6.25 wide and 8.8 inches high. They have a list on their site so you can receive updates on availability.
see www.airgizmos.com
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12-04-2008, 09:19 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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I won't be using a Gizmo's mount, thanks anyway. They're too clunky. The various GPS' I've panel mounted don't eat up any more area than the GPS plan area, all you see is the GPS, and they're easily removable.
So if there's a pix out there, I'd really appreciate it.
John Siebold
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12-04-2008, 09:44 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Hey John - go to the Garmin web site and download the manual - there is a picture of the unit on page 1 that shows the back - it is flat, and has four interface screws in a square pattern. They include a RAM mount that attaches in various positions to the back of the case using those screws, and then you can interface that to your favorite RAM stalk and mount anywhere in your cockpit. That's how I do it - the Air Gizmo route has never quite fit my panel designs either.
Paul
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12-04-2008, 10:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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John,
One suggestion, which may or may not apply to you. When you make your 696 bracket, I assume you are going to make the 696 removable. If that is the case and you have instruments such as a Dynon which requires a DB9 connector for updates, make a bracket that fits behind the Garmin to hold these connectors. That will make future software upgrades easier to perform.
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12-04-2008, 01:19 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
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I plan to deal with this tomorrow (Friday) ..............after FedEX drops it off.
My 195, 296, and 496 were mounted using the supplied (quick remove) mounting brakets that were removed from the yoke mount and screwed to a solid fixed mount that was thumb screwed to the left corner of the cockpit.
I too, am waiting to see what type of adapters I can make, since I want it easily removeable. If you don't get some pics, and the Garmin site doesn't have enough info; I'll get some pics when it get's here.
L.Adamson -- RV6A
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12-04-2008, 02:03 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Paul and L.Adamson,
After looking at the isometric drawings in the manual, I still have a few questions that would affect an install, and therefore affect viability as I'm otherwise ready to cut the panel. (If you're wondering why I just don't buy one, I'm not entirely convinced it's really worth the money: I'll never pay Garmin big bucks to update the EFB - the few TERPS I need are free on the web, AirNav serves me better than AOPA, and I think color adds clutter and reduces legibility. Never mind that I still own a slide rule.  )
1. The frame appears to be tapered from the widest dimension on the case parting line towards the face (and rear). If so, by how much?
2. What's the dimension from the parting line to the face of the unit, excluding buttons and joystick?
3. Does the supplied power/data plug, memory card, or any other required plug-in exceed the perimeter of the case?
Thanks.
John Siebold
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12-04-2008, 02:22 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV7ator
and I think color adds clutter and reduces legibility. Never mind that I still own a slide rule.  )
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After experiencing numerous "color" GPS's including Garmin and Lowrance............
It's the resolution of the units that make a real difference in legibility. The higher end Garmin units use higher resolutions than the cheaper competition.
When detail is sharp and clear, it's far from clutter. I'd much rather have color to indicate borders such as restricted and Class B areas. I had to do a lot of threading between these restricted airspaces and mountains last weekend (trying to get to Jackpot, Nevada). I was making jokes to a few other aircraft in our group about triangulating "fixes" by hand, instead of using the good old GPS, as we were getting bounced around pretty good by the weather. In the end, it was a diversion to Wendover, Utah which included the restricted military areas and mountains that I've mentioned. The 496 did well, but I want a bigger screen. I've been jealous of the Garmin 1000's for several years now...
L.Adamson --- RV6A
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12-04-2008, 02:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Minneapolis
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No need to get very complex....mounting these things is dirt simple! Take a look at the attached picture and see how simple it is to mount them. You simply make a small plate that screws onto the back of the 696 into the pre-supplied nutserts in the 696. Then you take some simple standoffs (the picture below ha 1.25" standoffs on it). Drill two holes on each side of the 606. One one side file the holes into a slot - the slot will be filed to the main big cutout for the 696. Then, if you want to remove it, simply loosen two screws (the two that are in the "slotted holes", remove the other two and slide the thing out. It's simple enough to quickly and easily remove the 696, but makes it appears to a thief that it's permanently mounted. The beauty of this is that you can still access the power button on the top, change the depth it is mounted at (with 1.25" standoffs if leaves about the exact same amount exposed as the rest of the radio stack). Keeps the thing from falling into the panel too.
I think this is really an elegant way to mount them so they look like they were meant there. No need for complex bent brackets - just a simple flat sheet with 4 standoffs. Just to give credit where credit is due; I didn't invent this - it was first done at TruTrak by Jim Younkin, who always comes up with easy solutions to everything! The Air Gizmo guys will have a solution shortly, but in some panels I already know we physically won't have room for them.
In the end, this is how we are mounting these in panels. I thought of making some "kits", but then I realized that anyone who's built an RV should be able to whip one of these up in about 15 minutes!
Cheers,
Stein

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