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11-25-2008, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lake Country, B.C. Canada
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interior upgrades...carpet???
I have a rather spartan interior....what are your 'must do' upgrades??
I am planning some 1/2" foam sheet soundproofing for the floor of my -9a;
- is it worth doing the firewall and cabin sides?
- what kind of carpet works best...weight vs wear and ease of cleaning.
- Does the soundproofing need to be glued to the floor to work??? ...or can I leave it loose under the carpet so I can vacuum out all the grit etc that invariably accumulates?
any and all opinions welcome.....
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11-26-2008, 05:52 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
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There are a couple of ways.....
.....to consider, Perry. Yesterday I spoke to Luke at Classic Aero about this same thing. He provides a foam base already bonded to the carpet for the 7 and -9's. On the -6's he velcros the foam down and then the carpet velcro's to that so all of it remains removable for vacuuming.
Foam on the firewall and under the feet sure helps soften the exhaust "droning" and vibrating under your feet.
Regards,
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11-26-2008, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canby, Oregon
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Perry, another nice benefit....
With my carpet glued to the sides of my fuse. I can now place my Velcro wrapped pen anywhere and it doesn't roll away.
"Now where did I stick my pen last time?"
Kent
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11-26-2008, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
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Foam sandwich
There was an article I think in Kit Planes that said the firewall and the area near the exhaust were the most important places to sound insulate. I have a copy of the article that I can pdf and send to you if you want.
Basically what it says is to make a sandwich with foam as the bread and a layer of regular household aluminum foil as the meat. I just completed that on my fuselage and although I won't fly until next year, people have said that it makes a big difference. It was pretty easy. I used spray on adhesive to stick the sandwich together and Velcro to attach it to the firewall. I also used a single layer of foam on the sides back to the baggage area covered in upholstery fabric.
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Last edited by ArVeeNiner : 11-26-2008 at 10:04 AM.
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11-26-2008, 10:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Which foam did you...
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Originally Posted by ArVeeNiner
There was an article I think in Kit Planes that said the firewall and the area near the exhaust were the most important places to sound insulate. I have a copy of the article that I can pdf and send to you if you want.
Basically what it says is to make a sandwich with foam as the bread and a layer of regular household aluminum foil as the meat. I just completed that on my fuselage and although I won't fly until next year, people have said that it makes a big difference. It was pretty easy. I used spray on adhesive to stick the sandwich together and Velcro to attach it to the firewall. I also used a single layer of foam on the sides back to the baggage area covered in upholstery fabric.
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...use?
If it's auto foam, try a flame test, some of it will flare right up whena match is put to it.
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11-26-2008, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
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It's from Aircraft Spruce
I know you have to be careful with foam because some can make you dead if they burn not to mention flammability!  I got mine from a friend who had left overs from some he purchased from Aircraft Spruce so it's the good stuff.
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San Jose, CA
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11-26-2008, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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It's the black stuff...
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Originally Posted by ArVeeNiner
I know you have to be careful with foam because some can make you dead if they burn not to mention flammability!  I got mine from a friend who had left overs from some he purchased from Aircraft Spruce so it's the good stuff.
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...correct?
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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11-26-2008, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Yep,
it's black.
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Kelly Johnson
San Jose, CA
RV-9A
Pink slip issued: 5/7/12
First flight: 5/28/12, Memorial Day.
Phase I Complete: 8/18/12!
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11-26-2008, 04:31 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
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You can always go to your local flooring center and buy carpet that has a "Class 1" fire rating. That's the top commercial rating and means the carpet self-extinguishes in a short time.
Typically, you are looking for a commercial grade loop pile carpet made of the nylon 6.6 fiber. NOT nylon 6, which is slightly different, more flammable fiber. You should be able to find an intelligent person at your local flooring center (try a store front, not a big box) to help you pick what you want.
After you pick your carpet, use spray adhesive to attach some of the non-flammable foam from Aircraft Spruce or equivalent, and you're good to go.
By the way, use a razor knife to cut your carpet to match poster board templates of your your floorboard. Put a little cardboard under the carpet when you cut it on your garage floor...
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Kyle Boatright
Marietta, GA
2001 RV-6 N46KB
2019(?) RV-10
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11-26-2008, 05:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Automotive...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright
You can always go to your local flooring center and buy carpet that has a "Class 1" fire rating. That's the top commercial rating and means the carpet self-extinguishes in a short time.
Typically, you are looking for a commercial grade loop pile carpet made of the nylon 6.6 fiber. NOT nylon 6, which is slightly different, more flammable fiber. ......
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Kyle...how do the automotive carpets rate on this scale?
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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