|
-
POSTING RULES

-
Donate yearly (please).
-
Advertise in here!
-
Today's Posts
|
Insert Pics
|

10-11-2008, 09:19 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Ramon, CA
Posts: 402
|
|
CAT, SCAT, CEET, SCEET
Hi all,
I am working on my FWF installation. I have read Aircraft Spruce's summary of the differences between the abolve flexible ducting. What I can't figure out is, what should I use for my heat muff to cabin duct, blast tubes, etc. So, is it a choice of black over red? I assume that the CEET and SCEET, which are two ply thick, is overkill for the short RV runs. So it comes down to CAT vs SCAT.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
|

10-11-2008, 10:09 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
|
|
SCAT is the stuff...
...to use forward of the firewall. This is pretty standard in certified planes.
The 500F rating vs. the 300F rating of CAT is the deciding factor.
Inside the cockpit area, then CAT is OK.
My RV vent kit came from Vans with black tubing still containing the label from the aviation department of JC Whitney.... 
__________________
Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
|

10-11-2008, 11:10 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by az_gila
...Inside the cockpit area, then CAT is OK.
My RV vent kit came from Vans with black tubing still containing the label from the aviation department of JC Whitney.... 
|
I found some stuff at the local auto parts store that is "custom made" for Van's RV's, just read the label:

__________________
Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
Last edited by N941WR : 10-11-2008 at 11:36 AM.
|

10-11-2008, 11:31 AM
|
 |
Opulence, I has it...
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TX
Posts: 830
|
|
Bill-
LOL!
__________________
Joe Ferraro
DFW, VAF #17
SOLD
|

10-11-2008, 02:28 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 2,484
|
|
Please don't use Cat for anything. After a few years moisture gets trapped between the tubing and the aluminum (Any aluminum it touches) which starts corrosion between that and the steel spring that is in the tubing. I wouldn't consider using anything that isn't Silicone embedded (the S is Scat).
__________________
Stephen Samuelian, CFII, A&P IA, CTO
RV4 wing in Jig @ KPOC
RV7 emp built
|

10-11-2008, 10:47 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Ramon, CA
Posts: 402
|
|
Scat it is
Thanks for the insights
Michael Wynn
RV 8 FWF
San Ramon, CA
|

10-12-2008, 01:01 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
|
|
Confused...
Quote:
Originally Posted by osxuser
Please don't use Cat for anything. After a few years moisture gets trapped between the tubing and the aluminum (Any aluminum it touches) which starts corrosion between that and the steel spring that is in the tubing. I wouldn't consider using anything that isn't Silicone embedded (the S is Scat).
|
...about your comments....
Assuming a low temp application, SCAT tubing also has exposed steel wires on it's interior surface, so why wouldn't it corrode in the circumstances you mention above? If anything, the silicone would hold moisture in more efficiently....
SCAT tubing showing exposed wire....
I believe the silicone embedding (the "S") is in the cloth, not the wire....
__________________
Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
Last edited by az_gila : 10-13-2008 at 10:19 AM.
Reason: can't spel
|

10-12-2008, 04:07 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Shallotte NC
Posts: 594
|
|
copper coating
Gil..
The wire used inside of the SCAT tube is copper coated, just like MIG welding wire, and resists corrosion. It is also a nicer product to use for the air vents. I have used the vinyl wire stuff on auto applications a few times and was amazed at how quickly it deteriorated. for the couple of extra bucks it costs to install SCAT, I think it is a good idea.
2 cents,
Chris
__________________
Chris Schmitt
Shallotte, NC
RV9A 90970 N614RV
Sold to nice folks in Texas and badly missed.
RV9 in progress
|

10-12-2008, 10:31 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
|
|
But... are we comparing...
Quote:
Originally Posted by carguy614
Gil..
The wire used inside of the SCAT tube is copper coated, just like MIG welding wire, and resists corrosion. It is also a nicer product to use for the air vents. I have used the vinyl wire stuff on auto applications a few times and was amazed at how quickly it deteriorated. for the couple of extra bucks it costs to install SCAT, I think it is a good idea.
2 cents,
Chris
|
....SCAT to CAT like the original post said, or are we comparing SCAT to JC Whitney stuff? - which is a vastly different proposition....
What is the wire compostition/plating of real CAT hose, which oxuser did not like to use? Most likely, it is the same as the SCAT tubing, but I can't verify...
Perhaps oxuser really meant to say "don't use the automotive stuff", which has nothing to do with silicone content.... 
__________________
Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
|

10-13-2008, 04:37 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Shallotte NC
Posts: 594
|
|
scat
That's probably right Gil. I may not be comparing apples to apples...
Regards,
Chris
__________________
Chris Schmitt
Shallotte, NC
RV9A 90970 N614RV
Sold to nice folks in Texas and badly missed.
RV9 in progress
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:29 AM.
|