VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV General Discussion/News
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-08-2008, 08:19 PM
flybye flybye is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Border
Posts: 113
Default 51% Rule Questions?

If I was to buy a project plane with say 30% of the work completed, is it still possible to earn an A&P license by completing the project? Does the FAA have specific guidelines on this subject? I'm also wondering what the rules are on doing your own maintenance on an Experimental. If you only complete a small percentage of the project, are you limited in the maintenance that you are allowed to perform on the airframe?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-09-2008, 06:43 AM
vic syracuse vic syracuse is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Locust Grove, GA
Posts: 2,624
Default

As long as there is a documented trail that the airplane was 51% built by "amateur" builders via pictures and logs, there shouldn't be any problem obtaining the airworthiness certificate.
All maintenance on Amateur-built aircraft is allowed to be performed by the owner or others. The only time a certificate is required (Repairman's certificate specific to the make/model and serial number of the aircraft, or an A&P) is for the condition inspection, which is performed on an annual basis.
Obtaining the Repairman's certificate is a separate process from the airworthiness inspection, although in some geographical areas they can be done at the sime time by the same person. You just have to be able to prove, again via logs and pictures, that you are qualified to do the condition inspection. Sometimes this requires a trip to the FSDO and a discussion with an Inspector to obtain the Repairman's Certificate.

Vic
__________________
Vic Syracuse

Built RV-4, RV-6, 2-RV-10's, RV-7A, RV-8, Prescott Pusher, Kitfox Model II, Kitfox Speedster, Kitfox 7 Super Sport, Just Superstol, DAR, A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor/Flight Advisor, CFII-ASMEL/ASES
Kitplanes "Unairworthy" monthly feature
EAA Sport Aviation "Checkpoints" column
EAA Homebuilt Council Chair/member EAA BOD
Author "Pre-Buy Guide for Amateur-Built Aircraft"
www.Baselegaviation.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-09-2008, 06:50 AM
Mel's Avatar
Mel Mel is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
Default

What Vic said!
__________________
Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-09-2008, 09:27 AM
Garage Guy's Avatar
Garage Guy Garage Guy is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 457
Default Building or inspecting?

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic syracuse View Post
You just have to be able to prove, again via logs and pictures, that you are qualified to do the condition inspection. Sometimes this requires a trip to the FSDO and a discussion with an Inspector to obtain the Repairman's Certificate.
To convince the FSDO and get the repairman's cert, do the logs and pictures have to be of me building the plane? Or are there any known cases of demonstrating I'm qualified to do a condition inspection by just documenting me actually doing a condition inspection...?

--Paul
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-09-2008, 11:08 AM
Mel's Avatar
Mel Mel is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
Default

This is where you will find differences between FSDOs.
Some will allow you to convince them that you know enough about the build and some will not.
__________________
Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:45 PM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.