VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV General Discussion/News
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-11-2008, 04:29 PM
NYTOM NYTOM is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
Posts: 1,128
Question Rain Drains

Anybody out there have any tips on drilling drain holes for any rain water or other moisture that collects in the plane. I'm finally completing my first wing and realized there's no provisions for any drain holes. My old Ercoupe had drain holes everywhere and it was amazing how much water passed through that thing. I figure it's pretty much common sense where the waters going to collect but what size holes are you guys drilling. I might have to tie-down outside for a while waiting for a hanger rental so it's kind of important .
__________________
Tom Norwood
Classic "Short Tail 6A N822PM
TMX-O360. Phase 1
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-11-2008, 04:44 PM
AlexPeterson's Avatar
AlexPeterson AlexPeterson is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 2,331
Default Great question

Tom, I don't recall putting any in the wings, it seems like those are ok. The various corner reliefs built into the ribs, etc., make for allowing water to drain. It is the fuselage and the rudder bottom that need drain holes for sure. Once the plane is complete, you can spray water on the belly, and based upon where it collects, you will know where to drill the hole(s). Seems like I had two, somewhere in the vicinity of the aft wing spar. The 7's and 9's would be quite different.
__________________
Alex Peterson
RV6A N66AP 1700+ hours
KADC, Wadena, MN
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-11-2008, 08:25 PM
NYTOM NYTOM is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
Posts: 1,128
Smile Thanks for the good advice

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexPeterson View Post
Tom, I don't recall putting any in the wings, it seems like those are ok. The various corner reliefs built into the ribs, etc., make for allowing water to drain.
After I read your response I went down and stared at my half skinned wing and imagined I was a splash of water trying to get out. Your absolutely right Alex, it doesn't seem like it's going to be a problem.
Hopefully I'll get to try your idea on my fuselage within the year.
Thanks for your help Alex.
PS Nice web site you have there.
__________________
Tom Norwood
Classic "Short Tail 6A N822PM
TMX-O360. Phase 1
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-12-2008, 05:25 AM
jsharkey's Avatar
jsharkey jsharkey is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bennington, Vermont USA
Posts: 1,301
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexPeterson View Post
Tom, I don't recall putting any in the wings, it seems like those are ok. The various corner reliefs built into the ribs, etc., make for allowing water to drain. It is the fuselage and the rudder bottom that need drain holes for sure. Once the plane is complete, you can spray water on the belly, and based upon where it collects, you will know where to drill the hole(s). Seems like I had two, somewhere in the vicinity of the aft wing spar. The 7's and 9's would be quite different.
Out of interest - how big a diameter were the holes?

Jim Sharkey
RV6 - Details!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-12-2008, 05:29 AM
Vern's Avatar
Vern Vern is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Peachtree City, Ga
Posts: 1,039
Default Water Drains

You should consider a 1/8" drain hole in the airbox bottom, rudder bottom,and in front of each fuselage former. I've seen aircraft with 4-6" deep water in the rear fuselage (not RV's).

Most RV's are pampered and live in nice hangars, but being tied down on x-country or a heavy rain during flight could change things.

I saw a famous RV-6 abort takeoff and almost drown out the engine because of no airbox drain after a plane wash.
__________________
Vern Darley
Awarded FAA "The Wright Brothers 'Master Pilot' Award"- for 50 years safe flying

RV-6A N680V / RV-10QB N353RV
Luscombe 8E N2423K 50+years
Hatz Biplane N2423Z soon to be birthed
Falcon RV Squadron Founder
KFFC Hanger D-30
Peachtree City, Ga
770 310-7169
EAA Technical Counselor #5142
EAA Flight Advisor #486336
ATP/CFI/A&P/DAR
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-12-2008, 06:03 AM
AlexPeterson's Avatar
AlexPeterson AlexPeterson is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 2,331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYTOM View Post
After I read your response I went down and stared at my half skinned wing and imagined I was a splash of water trying to get out. Your absolutely right Alex, it doesn't seem like it's going to be a problem.
Hopefully I'll get to try your idea on my fuselage within the year.
Thanks for your help Alex.
PS Nice web site you have there.
Tom - thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsharkey View Post
Out of interest - how big a diameter were the holes?

Jim Sharkey
RV6 - Details!
Don't recall exactly - maybe 1/4" since that is the smallest my unibit can make.
__________________
Alex Peterson
RV6A N66AP 1700+ hours
KADC, Wadena, MN
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-12-2008, 06:53 AM
noelf noelf is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Cary, N.C.
Posts: 1,216
Default

I'm building a -6A and installed drain holes on the aft side of each bulkhead. Taildraggers may want these holes on the front side of the bulkheads. The hole size was smaller than a #40 drill bit...I think.

I positioned the drain holes on the center line (while the a/c was in the jig) so that at some future date, I could relocate the center line with little effort to validate any asymmetric issues/ concerns/screw-ups that I might come up with.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-12-2008, 07:34 AM
Mel's Avatar
Mel Mel is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by noelf View Post
The hole size was smaller than a #40 drill bit...I think.
I would recommend that the holes be about 3/16" as a smaller hole can easily be clogged by trash. The drain holes in my -6 are 3/16".
__________________
Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-12-2008, 12:32 PM
jsharkey's Avatar
jsharkey jsharkey is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bennington, Vermont USA
Posts: 1,301
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel View Post
I would recommend that the holes be about 3/16" as a smaller hole can easily be clogged by trash. The drain holes in my -6 are 3/16".
That sounds about right Mel,

Too small and even surface tension might stop all the water draining.

Where did you place them? Center line?

Jim
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-12-2008, 12:46 PM
Mel's Avatar
Mel Mel is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsharkey View Post
Where did you place them? Center line?
Jim
Centerline just forward of each bulkhead.
__________________
Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:54 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.