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07-30-2008, 11:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Forest Grove, OR
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New CreativAir LED Nav/Strobe Lights
Today at Oshkosh I saw some new interesting LED Nav/Strobe lights from CreativAir. Previously they had the large round circular arrays of LED lights that I wasn't too crazy about. They now have some new small Nav, Position and Strobe lights. Their website indicates 125 lumens for the Nav, 400 lumens for the position and 660 lumens for the strobe. A full complements of lights would cost a little less than the standard incandecent Whelen package from Vans. Best of all there would be no strobe supply to worry about and less current draw.
So does anyone know much more about these? Is the lumens adequate? All I know is that I was seeing spots when I left their booth.
Here's the info on the web.
http://www.creativair.com/position-s...tem-p-104.html
By the way, I spoke to the Whelen guy and he said they are probably about a year out before they introduce an LED strobe. They actually installed some prototypes on the Cessna Skycatcher but they won't sell them until they are certified. He said the cost of the Whelen LED Nav/Position lights are about 30% more than their standard.
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07-31-2008, 06:37 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
Posts: 7,496
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That is a sweet looking complete set! Looks really good on paper. Hopefully we will get a pirep soon.
Good price as well!
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07-31-2008, 06:59 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Stockton, CA
Posts: 1,207
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AeroLEDs is displaying their all-LED wingtip combo unit also. It has the Nav/Strobe/white tail light in each unit, too. With several companies offering this now, I'm really looking forward to some competitive pricing!
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07-31-2008, 10:06 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Fl
Posts: 402
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Is this everything needed?
I spoke to a nice lady at CreativAir and was told the strobes can only strobe and the steady on can only steady on. So does the tail light really replace the combination Whelen light? And It would seem the wingtip strobes only need to strobe while the nav lights are steady on green/red.
How do they look in person? The look compact and well built in the web site.
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07-31-2008, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craigvince
AeroLEDs is displaying their all-LED wingtip combo unit also. It has the Nav/Strobe/white tail light in each unit, too. With several companies offering this now, I'm really looking forward to some competitive pricing!
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those are pretty sharp looking. Anybody get a look at the AveoFlash Nav/Strobe combo for a comparison? http://www.aveousa.net/avsetoftwona.html
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07-31-2008, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 21
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All New - ALL LED Navs, Postion, and Strobes System from CreativAir
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Originally Posted by dbuds2
I spoke to a nice lady at CreativAir and was told the strobes can only strobe and the steady on can only steady on. So does the tail light really replace the combination Whelen light? And It would seem the wingtip strobes only need to strobe while the nav lights are steady on green/red.
How do they look in person? The look compact and well built in the web site.
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Hey All... Bill VonDane from CreativAir here... Oshkosh is great and the show is going very well!
I just wanted to respond to this post by saying that I don't have a nice lady, or any lady in my booth (although I wish I did!), and also wanted to say that YES, my new all LED tail light does do steady on and strobe, so YES it will replace the Whelen A500...
Check the EAA site tonight or tomorrow for a video highlight on the new products! ...I also have all the details and pricing available on my site...
Thanks!
-Bill VonDane
CreativAir - http://www.creativair.com
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07-31-2008, 11:10 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 468
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AeroLEDs will be offering an RV specific LED nav/strobe and tailstrobe (with position light) system very soon. The nav/strobe that we are showing at Oshkosh is the traditional style found on most wingtips, but is must more compact and doesn't require a brick supply, which will save a lot of weight.
The CreativeAir strobe is OEM'd from Nova, and is designed originally as a hide-away strobe for automotive headlights.
Dean Wilkinson
AeroLEDs LLC
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07-31-2008, 11:13 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: newnan.ga
Posts: 426
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Who was in the booth right next to SteinAir? They had some cool LED lights!
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07-31-2008, 12:15 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean_aeroleds
AeroLEDs will be offering an RV specific LED nav/strobe and tailstrobe (with position light) system very soon. The nav/strobe that we are showing at Oshkosh is the traditional style found on most wingtips, but is must more compact and doesn't require a brick supply, which will save a lot of weight.
The CreativeAir strobe is OEM'd from Nova, and is designed originally as a hide-away strobe for automotive headlights.
Dean Wilkinson
AeroLEDs LLC
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Your right Dean, I have been partnered with Nova Electronics for about 4 years now... They are way ahead of the curve on LED technology and especially the optics technology we are using in our products...
You are also right that our new LED Nav, Position, and Strobe lights came from technology proven in their automotive lines...
I did get a chance to stop by your booth and see your stuff when I was visiting with John at Titan......very nice! Good luck with the show!
-Bill
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07-31-2008, 01:09 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Huntsville, AL USA
Posts: 545
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Do they meet the specs?
I guess I'll ask the obvious question - do they meet the FAA brightness and distribution specifications? I would think the nav lights would be no problem but I have to wonder about the strobes a little. At 660 lumens, I would think it might be hard to meet the 400 effective candela requirement unless most of the light is directed along a fairly shallow horizontal slice. The biggest problem would be for the tail strobe. It has to cover a larger arc than the wing tip strobes do.
How about it?
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