Hottest running cylinder?

[Hawkeye7A]

Thanx to everyone who took the time to respond. I still have the blank panel that came with the kit, but I bought a pre-punched one because it only cost about 4 hours of take-home pay, way less than the amount of time I would've spent laying out and cutting my own. But now y'all have got me rethinking my entire panel layout. I even already installed the optional map box on the pre-punched panel so there's no room for the EIS 4000, unless I take "g's" suggestion and cut out sub-panels. So much to consider. If a quick build meets the 51% rule then the slow-build must meet the 91% rule!! Thanx again.

--hawk

[gmcjetpilot]

Originally Posted by osxuser

But the GRT's interface looks terrible compared to the slightly more expensive ($300 more) JPI. And the JPI fit's in a standard 2 1/4 hole, vs. the proprietary hole you'll need for the GRT.

Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

When I fly, I look at my: 3-dimensional color wrap-around full field of vision moving map, including full topography, collision avoidance, situational awareness enhancer with depth perception.

IT IS CALLED THE WINDSCREEN/CANOPY.

I don't care how pretty or what colors are displayed on an EIS. You don't have to look at it, since it warns of any exceedance, flashing a master warning light and switching the display to the critical page. Also there are EGT/CHT bar graph display pages with lean point set, first to peak, hottest EGT/CHT and cylinder #, delta peak and rate of change data and monitoring. Not to mention it can monitor every system in the aircraft except the pilot?s bladder, for less then the price of a JPI.

Granted the EIS is monochrome, does not have analog emulation and the data tags are hidden, on the users custom pages (unless you push the display button), but who cares, I look at it only to set RPM and MAP and it is fine. As long as the red light is not flashing I am good.

JPI may be nice, but I also remember what a-h's they where to matronics. I would never buy their product. Please don?t get me started on the ?proprietary hole?. If you can?t cut a rectangular hole in aluminum you are in trouble. G

PS: as far as cost a EIS-4000: $850, a JPI EDM-700 starts at $1,250 and goes to $1850. JPI is for Cessnas and Pipers, and if you are talking about the JPI scanner: http://www.jpinstruments.com/scanner.html for $996, I would say that is awful, it has just one number displayed, EIS has all data displayed in a bar graph http://hometown.aol.com/enginfosys/ (picture showing high EGT and CHT on top row and RPM, MAP and FF on bottom. Bar graph shows EGT bars and CHT missing segment. #2 is high EGT, #4 is high CHT. This is one of many custom pages. On my other custom pages I have RPM, MAP, OP, OT, FP, FF and Fuel Totalizer. Another page I have AMP/VOLT, Tank L & R and fuel endurance in Hr:Mn. On my third custom page I have the bar graph (CHT/EGT), Hottest EGT/CHT temp and cylinder number, Peak EGT temp of first to peak, change from peak and fuel flow. Pushing DISPLAY button brings up lables if you forget.There are about a Doz other standard pages with lables. Any page can be hidden from the menu.

[Tandem46]

George,

Your subject line says "JPI sucks". And that's because...........you have experience with them.....or what? You don't say anything negative about them in the body of your message.

Tobin

Oh yeah, BTW, I have a JPI EDM 700 that I've been flying with for 250hrs and I love it. When my plane was painted, I got the plane back with the EDM-700 face plate ruined. Sent it back to JPI and they replaced it/recalibrated it for FREE.

[gmcjetpilot]

Originally Posted by tobinbasford

George, Your subject line says "JPI sucks". And that's because...........

This is not proper language for the forum and apologize. Their product my be great but the company is a lawsuit crazy bunch of bullies. They bullied Matt at Matronics in 1999 over the word "scanner" vs. "fuelscan" (one word). JPI has done this before with other companies. JPI launched a lawsuit weak on facts and made it real ugly and threatened additional suits. The names and products where different and did different things. If you want to read about it: http://tinyurl.com/9tqjj , http://tinyurl.com/bexdw

JPI's "Scanner" at time of law suite http://www.jpinstruments.com/scanner.html (nothing to do with fuel)

I will not buy JPI products. G

PS: Matt changed his product name to fuelchec: http://www.matronics.com/fuelchec/index.htm
By the way there are 2,000 registered trademarks with the word "scan", "scanner" and "scanning"
JPI got there "FUEL SCAN" tso/stc over a year later mid/late 2000: http://www.jpinstruments.com/fuel_scan.html
I am surprise they don't sue again over the word "FUEL".

[Hawkeye7A]

Amazing the amount of dialog one question can generate! Aren't forums neat?

--hawk